Off Peak Restrictions (WIN -> WEY, SVR)

[wintonian]

I’ve been looking at off peak restrictions (specifically SVR from Winchester) down to Weymouth/ Dorchester to connect with trains running on the Heart of Wessex line.

A SVR seems to have an exception to the 09:00 off peak start time allowing you to take any train that departs at or after 08:35 from weymouth which also allows connections to be made from other stations not listed on to such a train.

That’s all fine but the time restriction from Southampton is 08:50.

Can I take a train to arrive in Weymouth for 08:35 leaving from Winchester on a SVR or can I not leave Southampton Central until 08:50?

The bit from Avantix Traveller is:

Valid on any train timed to
depart at or later than the
times shown below. Off-Peak
tickets from stations not
listed are valid for
connections into these trains.

Cardiff Central 0720
Newport 0730
Severn Tunnel Junction 0745
Great Malvern 0815
Malvern Link 0820
Worcester Foregate Street 0645
Worcester Shrub Hill 0655
Ashchurch 0715
Cheltenham Spa 0715
Gloucester 0705
Cam & Dursley 0715
Yate 0730
Bristol Parkway 0745
Filton Abbey Wood 0740
Bristol Temple Meads 0810
Bath Spa 0825
Bradford-on-Avon 0835
Trowbridge 0840
Westbury 0850
Dilton Marsh 0850
Warminster 0850
Salisbury 0850
Romsey 0820
Southampton Central 0850
Fareham 0835
Cosham 0830
Fratton 0820
Portsmouth & Southsea 0815
Portsmouth Harbour 0810
Weymouth 0835
Upwey 0845
Dorchester West 0850
Maiden Newton 0850
Chetnole 0850
Yetminster 0850
Thornford 0850
Yeovil Pen Mill 0850
Castle Cary 0850
Bruton 0850
Frome 0850

Also I thought of a hypothetical question regarding the use of a disabled railcard and travelling with someone who is also using the discount.

Obviously the holder and friend/ career have to travel together, but what if a they were travelling from Waterloo and the friend gets of the train at Southampton Central and wants to end their journey there, whilst the holder continues down to Brockenhurst, How would the friend leave the station at Southampton and exit through the barriers if there ticket was checked not being the holder of the railcard?

At what point does a person end their journey? When getting off the train or leaving the station premises?

 

[OwlMan]

Are you using an old version of Avantix.

The current restrictions for a Winchester - Weymouth SAV are (from the current NFM05 edition odf Avantix)

Restriction : 4B
Restriction applies Monday to
Fridays only.

No travel restrictions on
other days to both outward and
return journeys.

Valid on any train scheduled
to depart at or after 0930.

MORNING TRAVEL
Travel is also allowed on the
following departures from the
stations listed:

Banbury 0855 & 0920
Bishopstone 0927
Brading 0850
Eastbourne 0929
Exeter St Davids 0926
Fratton 0928
Lake 0843
London Paddington 0921
Portsmouth Harbour 0918
Portsmouth & Southsea 0924
Ryde Esplanade 0800
Ryde St John's Rd 0857
Sandown 0846
Seaford 0925
Shanklin 0840
Southampton Central 0910
Swanwick 0928
Whimple 0842
Yeovil Junction 0929

EVENING TRAVEL
Ticket may NOT be used Monday
to Friday on the following
departures:
From London Paddington and
Reading.

From From Final
Padd Readng Destination
1600 1628 Bristol TM (BRI)
1606 1633 Penzance (PNZ)
1615 1642 Swansea (SWA)
1630 1659 Taunton (TAU)
1636 1704 Exeter St.D(EXD)
From From Final
Padd Readng Destination
1645 1712 Swansea (SWA)
1649 1721 Oxford (OXF)
1700 1727 Bristol TM (BRI)
1703 1732 Penzance (PNZ)
1715 1743 Swansea (SWA)
1722 1751 Hereford (HFD)
1730 1757 Taunton (TAU)
1733 1802 Paignton (PGN)
1745 1812 Carmarthen (CMN)
1748 1817 Cheltenham (CNM)
1750 1823 Worcester S(WOS)
1800 1828 Bristol TM (BRI)
1803 1833 Penzance (PNZ)
From From Final
Padd Readng Destination
1815 1843 Swansea (SWA)
1822 1852 Hereford (HFD)
1830 1857 Weston S Mare(WSM)
1836 1904 Exeter StD (EXD)
1845 1912 Swansea (SWA)
1848 1918 Cheltenham (CNM)
1851 1923 Oxford (OXF)
1900 1928 Bristol TM (BRI)
1903 1933 Penzance (PNZ)
1915 1942 Swansea (SWA)

You can not therefore leave Winchester until 0930.

If you use a CDR the follwing restrictions apply

Restriction : B3
OUTWARD TRAVEL
By any train except those
timed to depart Mondays to
Fridays before 0900

On a CDR you can leave after 0900

 

[wintonian]

I was trying to simplify matters and got it wrong anyway.

The idea was to use a FOSS rover and using the off peak restrictions from Eastleigh to Tiverton Parkway to leave before 09:00 thinking that the rover was valid from 09:00 or when off peak tickets are valid.

Looking at the T&C's for the rover again it seems I imagined that.

If it had Worked I could use the 08:50 from Weymouth (I still can but need to get there) and the 06:48 from Eastleigh thus allowing me t start the Rover more than 2 hours early.

Incidentally I see SWT now have some basic information about rovers on their web site which surprises me as they would rather run out of ticket stock than acknowledge there existence.