Ploughman
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Will anything be able to run? Who knows.
With the novel sales technique of lowering prices at peak times and having higher prices when it's quieter...Timetable for the 2026 season is now out and prices for the day rovers. New travel passes now discontinued.
Do you think it's aligned with capacity provision rather than demand?With the novel sales technique of lowering prices at peak times and having higher prices when it's quieter...
Does anyone know the rationale for that? Did users like local residents making several trips in a year from Pickering to Goathland or Whitby to Newtondale Halt end up generating more costs than the revenue upfront (and local good opinion) was worth?Timetable for the 2026 season is now out and prices for the day rovers. New travel passes now discontinued.
the yearly free return passes or something else?New travel passes now discontinued.
Those disappeared a few years ago. Last year there was a £180 (or £200 with £30 gift shop voucher back) annual season, called the 'Travel Pass'.the yearly free return passes or something else?
NYMR times and Northern times do fit for the NYMR Pink Sundays - which is most of the season. For the 6 weeks of NYMR blue Sundays some NYMR services would be delayed 5 to 10 minutes waiting for Northern to return the token - but then the NYMR typically runs late !! - or maybe there is some adjustment to Northern times on Sundays with the new May Timetable - Northern were criticised for poor Sunday connections at Middlesbrough when current timetables came in last December. Alternatively - there was talk of points at Grosmont and Whitby being motorised this winter - which would eliminate the NYMR Mobile Ground frame operator - and reduce their Grosmont Whitby journey times by 6 or 7 minutes - thus allowing NYMR services to recover the time lost waiting for access to the single line to / from Whitby. Maybe the timetable assumes this will happen ??The Sunday timetable doesn't fit with the NR timetable for Whitby. It will need reworking.
Also the Whitby day trip only allows around 2 hrs in the town for most of the season. Two trains out and back in high summer only.
Something to add here is membership is going up to £60 pa for adults, effective 1st March.Those disappeared a few years ago. Last year there was a £180 (or £200 with £30 gift shop voucher back) annual season, called the 'Travel Pass'.
Looking at the fares in more detail I think I have found the answer to my own earlier question. I see that a £38/year annual membership obtains a 50% fare reduction. That suggests that a £180 annual season would only be economic for someone intending to make journeys which would cost over £280/year if paid for individually. For anyone intending to make journeys usually costing in total between £80 and £280 in a year then becoming a member would be cheaper. That suggests that the Travel Pass holders (apart from those who would have been better off not getting them) were making journeys usually priced at £280+ while paying £180, which is a big discount for a struggling line.
As they say they have started work, does this mean that they have appointed the contractor?Not shocked to hear that. I think they are being optimistic for April to be honest. But best of luck to them.
Coastliner bus (840) from Goathland to Whitby, though they're infrequent.May I ask for some advice, please?
I'm thinking of getting an All Line Rover in April and was thinking of going to the NYMR.
The plan would be something like:
York - Maton - (taxi) Pickering - Whitby - Middlesborough.
However, as the line may well be partially closed, can anyone suggest hiw to travel Goathland to either Grosmont or Whitby, please?
Many thanks
The walk back to Grosmont is quite steep after Beck Hole, where the pub is very good, if you aren’t very mobile.Coastliner bus (840) from Goathland to Whitby, though they're infrequent.
Or the walk along the old railway formation from Goathland to Grosmont is pleasant and untaxing.
I suspect you may have transposed Grosmont and Goathland there - I recall the slope being downhill in the Grosmont (northbound) direction, and being located between Goathland and Beck Hole. Checking a route description and gradient profile online corroborates this. Beyond Beck Hole the footpath largely follows the river in the direction of flow, barring the climb over the top of Grosmont tunnel at the end.The walk back to Grosmont is quite steep after Beck Hole, where the pub is very good, if you aren’t very mobile.
The walk from Goathland TO Grosmont is downhill all the way, very pleasant and untaxing, as the previous poster said. The pub at Beck Hole is very good whether you’re very mobile or not.The walk back to Grosmont is quite steep after Beck Hole, where the pub is very good, if you aren’t very mobile.
It is an easy walk, but it does require an ascent at the Grosmont end to walk over the tunnel. It is not an ascent that should trouble anyone who has managed the previous 3 miles (with or without the short detour to the Beck Hole pub), and I have done it several times with a buggy, and on occasion with self-propelled small children.The walk from Goathland TO Grosmont is downhill all the way, very pleasant and untaxing, as the previous poster said. The pub at Beck Hole is very good whether you’re very mobile or not.
The Coastliner bus calls at Goathland and Sleights but I do not know of any that call at Grosmont.
The 25th April date is when they intend to have the bridge temporarily propped to allow services to resume. This looks to be an application to do the final repair work.Saw this planning notice at Grosmont station today dated 25th March. Says comments are required within 21 days with extension for bank holidays. I take it that no work can start on it until after that date which would make it highly unlikely that works would be complete by 25th April