themiller
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Not wishing to throw a hand grenade in among the celebrations, but do any informed forum members think that it’s only a matter of time until the other end of the viaduct will need the same (or similar) work carrying out?
I haven't seen any mention of any subsidence or other problems there.Not wishing to throw a hand grenade in among the celebrations, but do any informed forum members think that it’s only a matter of time until the other end of the viaduct will need the same (or similar) work carrying out?
AIUI only the problem pier is original (although refaced with matching brick), but the central pier, the north bank arched viaduct section and the main spans, all date from a later rebuild.Not wishing to throw a hand grenade in among the celebrations, but do any informed forum members think that it’s only a matter of time until the other end of the viaduct will need the same (or similar) work carrying out?
The north end is built on a different and much more solid ground - the geology changes literally underneath the river bed just past the area that caused the problems. There's something about that up thread somewhere.I haven't seen any mention of any subsidence or other problems there.
Not wishing to throw a hand grenade in among the celebrations, but do any informed forum members think that it’s only a matter of time until the other end of the viaduct will need the same (or similar) work carrying out?
Have we been told who (presumably at Network Rail) devised the overall Cunning Plan? And can forum members fill me in on how conversations with contractors would have gone?
For example, hello, is that TMS Maritime, can you pile into the river bed (the river is currently in rather a spate) to prop up this sagging bridge span by 20 April? You mean April 2024? No, next week ...
From all the comms put out, the worksite only appeared to cover the southern end so nothing would have been done (except maybe some visual inspections) on the other piers.I don't claim to be an "informed forum member". But would they have not done it at the same time if it was at all likely?
No it wouldn't, the transcript would have been much closer to 'we've got a bridge out south of Oxford, we need a piling team on site ASAP. What can you do for us, please?'The funniest post I've read. But also very close to what a panicked call would be like if we had a transcript.
Thanks for that, Peter. It would have been a bit embarrassing to have got the wires up (at sometime in the future) and then found a problem with the north end.The north end is built on a different and much more solid ground - the geology changes literally underneath the river bed just past teh area that caused the problems. There's something about that up thread somewhere.
Ah, thanks, that does sound more like it! Any idea at what stage TMS would have worked out that they would put their kit in the river downstream at Abingdon lock, and tug/push it upstream to the site?No it wouldn't, the transcript would have been much closer to 'we've got a bridge out south of Oxford, we need a piling team on site ASAP. What can you do for us, please?'
No idea, sorry.Ah, thanks, that does sound more like it! Any idea at what stage TMS would have worked out that they would put their kit in the river downstream at Abingdon lock, and tug/push it upstream to the site?
Probably the blockades for the station rebuild, although maybe some freight will still run to Hinksey.Hopefully electrification will be the only next closure.
Oxford blockade in a few weeks and another one next year to sort Botley Road.Probably the blockades for the station rebuild, although maybe some freight will still run to Hinksey.
Very true - and let's hope that they DO get the wires up ( and that they don't stop at Oxford either, but that's for another thread! ).Thanks for that, Peter. It would have been a bit embarrassing to have got the wires up (at sometime in the future) and then found a problem with the north end.
That's the May timetable change belatedly coming into force. South of Reading we've waited rather too long for reinstatement of hourly Crosscountry servicesLooks like for the most part, all XC services are single units today, but are running to Bournemouth (no alternate hourly Reading terminators).
Great to see it open again![]()
Had provisional bridge reconstruction plans already been prepared, some time in advance of the line having to be closed, but then delayed awaiting a sufficiently long period of track access?Full marks to NR and their various subcontractors and designers for the speed with which this scheme was devised, designed, procured and installed. It's really quite remarkable to have managed all that within around ten weeks.
That's the May timetable change belatedly coming into force. South of Reading we've waited rather too long for reinstatement of hourly Crosscountry services
That's possible, but I think that the treatment using grout injection was still the chosen solution up to the point where it subsided too far for that to work, which was the point when the line was closed. Only those directly involved will really know though, I'm just speculating from afar.Had provisional bridge reconstruction plans already been prepared, some time in advance of the line having to be closed, but then delayed awaiting a sufficiently long period of track access?
High tension?H/T to all involved!
High tension?
How long is the 50mph/80kmh speed restriction likely to stay in place?
Oh no, don’t open that can of worms (when is a TSR not a TSR…).
Yes, for most purposes imperial is used for speeds and distances. However, gauge is now metric, and new signalling systems/schemes are all metric including the distance from the datum and the spacing between signals/AWS/TPWS/ATP (we have to keep converting between km and miles & chains).No need for the 'kmh', we use mph in the UK and imperial measurements are used on the railway for speed and distance with very limited exceptions.
However, gauge is now metric