NRE on Gold cards

[maniacmartin]

NRE says

Annual Season tickets can be issued as Gold Cards when:
* the origin station is within the area, or
* the issuing station and either the origin station, destination station or both are within the area.

Is the first bullet point actually true? My understanding was that it is not enough for the just the origin station to be within the area - ie I can't buy a Gold card from York ticket office.

 

[Haywain]

That is quite poorly worded, and really the first line should be ignored, as the second covers it in a better way. You can't buy a Gold Card from York, but an annual season between York and London can be issued as a Gold Card if issued within the Network Card area.

 

[island]

In practice, York won't have gold card stock.

 

[greatkingrat]

What about somewhere like Peterborough? Although it is not in the Network area I would expect it sells a significant number of Gold card eligible seasons.

 

[CyrusWuff]

What about somewhere like Peterborough? Although it is not in the Network area I would expect it sells a significant number of Gold card eligible seasons.

No seasons sold at Peterborough are eligible to be issued as Gold Cards, as it's not inside the Network Area...

The examples given in The Manual included the following (or something similar):

• A season ticket from Worcester to Hereford, issued at Worcester Shrub Hill, is eligible to be issued as a Gold Card, as the issuing station and origin are both in the Network Area
• A season ticket from Worcester to Hereford, issued at Hereford, is not eligible to be issued as a Gold card, as the issuing station is not in the Network Area.

Further examples:

• A season ticket from Warwick to Leamington Spa, issued at Banbury, is not eligible to be issued as a Gold Card, as whilst the issuing station is in the Network Area, neither the origin nor the destination are.
• A season ticket from Peteborough to London Terminals, issued at Cambridge, is eligible to be issued as a Gold Card, as the issuing station and destination are both in the Network Area.
• A season ticket from Ryde Esplanade to Ryde St John's Road, issued at Cambridge, is eligible to be issued as a Gold Card, as all three stations are in the Network Area.

 

[Be3G]

I'm amused by that final bullet point there – someone at ATOC must have noticed the number of people who, err, have that particular commute on a regular basis, yet strangely don't live nearby…

 

[maniacmartin]

The Manual appears to disagree with NRE here (and I think NRE has the wrong information)

 

[jopsuk]

Peterborough being outside the Network Area continues to be a ridiculous farce- the only station served by FCC, the terminus of the ECML London Commuter services. Far closer to London than Kings Lynn, Weymouth, Exeter. If Eeast Coast were worried about revenue loss, it would be easy to make the NSE and Gold Card not valid on EC services.

I'd make Ipswich part of the Network area too, though it would be near impossible to write a rule restricting its use to just the stoppers.

 

[Tetchytyke]

My understanding was that it is not enough for the just the origin station to be within the area - ie I can't buy a Gold card from York ticket office.

I think it's badly worded. I think they're meaning that, with your example, a ticket bought at York would have an origin of York and a destination of London Terminals. A ticket bought at Kings Cross would have an origin of London Terminals and a destination of York, and would be eligible for a Gold Card.

Really the second line tells you all you need to know, and the first line is superfluous.

 

[John @ home]

Annual Season tickets can be issued as Gold Cards when:
* the origin station is within the area, or
* the issuing station and either the origin station, destination station or both are within the area.

the first line is superfluous.

An annual Travelcard from York to London Zones 1-6 purchased in London shows origin YORK and destination LONDON ZONES 1-6 and is issued on Gold Card stock.

An annual Travelcard from York to London Zones 1-6 purchased in York shows origin YORK and destination LONDON ZONES 1-6 and is not issued on Gold Card stock.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Peterborough being outside the Network Area continues to be a ridiculous farce- the only station served by FCC, the terminus of the ECML London Commuter services. Far closer to London than Kings Lynn, Weymouth, Exeter. If Eeast Coast were worried about revenue loss, it would be easy to make the NSE and Gold Card not valid on EC services.

I'd make Ipswich part of the Network area too, though it would be near impossible to write a rule restricting its use to just the stoppers.

Might be worth mentioning the neither FCC nor East Coast had anything to do with where Network South East set the boundary.......

 

[jopsuk]

Indeed, but the Network boundary has as far as I understand been tweaked since NSE ceased to exist. So it could be changed.

 

[island]

I think we're all overthinking this to be honest.