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Now the HSTs are gone, what next?

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cactustwirly

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Now that HSTs are slowly being withdrawn, it's quite sad as nothing else quite has the same feeling!

Anyway, anyone got any ideas what to bash, to fill the void? (examples from abroad definitely welcome!)
 
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Now that HSTs are slowly being withdrawn, it's quite sad as nothing else quite has the same feeling!

Anyway, anyone got any ideas what to bash, to fill the void? (examples from abroad definitely welcome!)
The sprinter family perhaps?
 

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Are you joking? :lol:

Partially. Enjoy them while you can!

How about the remaining timetabled LHCS services: 37/57/67/68/73/90/91/92

Some are on borrowed time- surprised how many there are when you start thinking about them.
 

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67's on Transport for Wales - Cardiff to Holyhead and Manchester to Llandudno/Holyhead
 

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Anyone bashing HSTs needs to attend a re-education programme to get them on to loco-hauled trains.

As mentioned up - thread, there are still plenty about, and TPE soon to join the party.
 

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HST's aren't exactly being withdrawn either. They will live on with GWR, XC, EMT and Scotrail for sometime yet.
 

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HST's aren't exactly being withdrawn either. They will live on with GWR, XC, EMT and Scotrail for sometime yet.

I'm not convinced that they'll be around for much longer, I'm certain the next EMT and XC franchises will be replacing them!
 

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Anyone bashing HSTs needs to attend a re-education programme to get them on to loco-hauled trains.

As mentioned up - thread, there are still plenty about, and TPE soon to join the party.

Oi they're loco hauled alright!
Probably the best LHCS stock around! :lol:
 

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You can't beat a bit of Class 92 noise on the Cally Sleeper (although the noise you can hear from the Mark III drop-light window will soon be gone!). (Video not mine).

 

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Oi they're loco hauled alright!
Probably the best LHCS stock around! :lol:
I'm not being drawn into that debate again!

We all have our own 'rules'.

Back on topic, plenty of excursions, railtours and diesel days to keep folk occupied in addition to the regular stuff.
 

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HST's aren't exactly being withdrawn either. They will live on with GWR, XC, EMT and Scotrail for sometime yet.

Spoke to someone who'd been on a brand new XC train heading south for Plymouth last week. She complimented a member of train crew who dismissively told her it wasn't new but made in 1974.

Passengers still love them.
 

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Classic NMBS/SNCB EMUs, anyone? (Not extremely endangered at the moment, but who know what the M7s may lead to...)
 

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Once the HST track muck-spreaders have gone (or have had their sanitary arrangements brought into the 20th century), are there any other classes of rolling stock similarly (un-) equipped, - other than heritage LHCS?
 

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I know it's become a favourite cliche on this site, but I envisage there will be renewed interest in the class 442s once they start on the Portsmouth route.
68s on Chiltern and TPE?
Yes, I suspect that the Transpennine class 68s will come in for some scrutiny and become one of the main highlights of the loco-hauled scene from this year onwards.

While the mark 5s are not slam door stock of course, I would think that a half hourly frequency of loco-hauled trains, worked by powerful diesel locomotives with traditional names and little or no passenger mileage to date, over a scenic route with notable gradients, that is recalled with fondness for the Newcastle - Liverpool loco-hauled services that operated until 1990, and has a good choice of pubs en route, will be appealing to many.

I certainly expect to have more than one crack at it, and it is fortuitous that it fits neatly into my sporadic long distance travel patterns. I can't wait for them to get started. And enthusiasts in the north of England will need some way to get their local loco-hauled fix now that the Cumbrian Coast class 37s have gone.
HST's aren't exactly being withdrawn either. They will live on with GWR, XC, EMT and Scotrail for sometime yet.
Yes, I suspect there will be an increased number of Scottish holidays for those with a fondness for HSTs, as the country will become the prime bastion of continued HST operation. The same can be said to a slightly lesser extent for EMT services until presumably around 2023/24, and all bets are off as to how long these two fleets retain their slam doors and droplight windows as an added attraction.
I'm not convinced that they'll be around for much longer, I'm certain the next EMT and XC franchises will be replacing them!
Should have another four or five years yet then. Wabtec might have just delivered the last of Crosscountry's five power door fitted HST sets by then! :lol:
Once the HST track muck-spreaders have gone (or have had their sanitary arrangements brought into the 20th century), are there any other classes of rolling stock similarly (un-) equipped, - other than heritage LHCS?
At present, most of the Sprinter fleets, although these are all being fitted with retention tanks as they go through PRM modification (Some TOCs' class 158s had already been retrofitted).
 
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... At present, most of the Sprinter fleets, although these are all being fitted with retention tanks as they go through PRM modification (Some TOCs' class 158s had already been retrofitted).
... Wow! I didn't realise that they were still putting new trains on the track without retention tanks in the late '80s, apart from the MKIII 23m coaches. How about the class 442s, were they built without RTs (and do they still have them)?
 

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... Wow! I didn't realise that they were still putting new trains on the track without retention tanks in the late '80s, apart from the MKIII 23m coaches. How about the class 442s, were they built without RTs (and do they still have them)?
The majority of PEP and mark 3 EMUs from class 313 up to class 321 weren't built with them either; exceptions being the class 317s which originally worked Kentish Town - Moorgate, and the class 319s due to being built for use through the Thameslink core tunnels. An increasing number of units and classes have been retrofitted with tanks, though. Class 442s weren't built with retention tanks but did have them retrofitted quite quickly during their first C4 overhauls from late 1989.
 

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I know it's become a favourite cliche on this site, but I envisage there will be renewed interest in the class 442s once they start on the Portsmouth route.

Yes, I suspect that the Transpennine class 68s will come in for some scrutiny and become one of the main highlights of the loco-hauled scene from this year onwards.

While the mark 5s are not slam door stock of course, I would think that a half hourly frequency of loco-hauled trains, worked by powerful diesel locomotives with traditional names and little or no passenger mileage to date, over a scenic route with notable gradients, that is recalled with fondness for the Newcastle - Liverpool loco-hauled services that operated until 1990, and has a good choice of pubs en route, will be appealing to many.

I certainly expect to have more than one crack at it, and it is fortuitous that it fits neatly into my sporadic long distance travel patterns. I can't wait for them to get started. And enthusiasts in the north of England will need some way to get their local loco-hauled fix now that the Cumbrian Coast class 37s have gone.

I suspect there will be a few additional sales of the South Pennies Day Ranger for some folk to go backwards & forward between Manchester & Leeds once the 68s come out to play on TPE
 

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If you fancy a trip to Europe, Stuttgart seems to be a mecca of hauled trains on local services. Usually BR111, 112, 114 and 146.

Only a few plastic Siemens Talent things about, which have basically destroyed any rail interest in the likes of Mitteldeutschland. Services to Heilbronn, Karlsruhe, Tübingen, Nürnberg, Würzberg/Lauda and the ICs (which accept regional tickets- ONLY this line) to Konstanz are all solidly locomotive hauled.

Ulm to Lindau also sees BR218 diesels which can make for a nice noisy run. The services run with BR146s from Stuttgart then swap at Ulm.

Or, just go to the Czech Republic and bash locos to your hearts content :lol:
 
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Now that HSTs are slowly being withdrawn, it's quite sad as nothing else quite has the same feeling!

Anyway, anyone got any ideas what to bash, to fill the void? (examples from abroad definitely welcome!)

Go to Scotland and continue bashing HSTs in much nicer scenery than the drab flatlands of the GWML?
 

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I suspect there will be a few additional sales of the South Pennies Day Ranger for some folk to go backwards & forward between Manchester & Leeds once the 68s come out to play on TPE
You don't need to be so lavish - a West Yorkshire day rover will do the job without the need to venture to the wet side of the Pennines. Not quite back to the days of hordes of 40 bashers charging through the Huddersfield subway between the Blackpool turns, but it will certainly be worth a day out.
 
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