Andy Pacer
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Which is rather a shame as 399 is the only one expected to be staying in the medium term for route 30.
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tram21
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What about 301-309?
Andy Pacer
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Presumably they'll be displaced by next year's electric intake of the remainder of the order.
Trainman40083
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Even branded buses are not fully utilised outside the peak at Nottingham.
Yeah, I tend to just check the unbranded
MCR247
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Oh no that’s a shame. Whilst it is the newest long diesel single deck it’s worse the ride (and from what I hear drive).
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I don’t think (emphasis on the think) that a batch for rest of the green line has been confirmed. Certainly NCTs Facebook is replying to comments asking when Bridgford bus is getting electrics saying the existing buses are some of the newest and aren’t being replaced yet. In contrast when asked about yellow line, for example, they mention later batches
tram21
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Yes, I think despite them being perhaps slightly unfavourable to drive you cannot overlook the fact they are only five years old and offer a better experience (comfier seats, USB Chargers, better disabled access) than the Solo SRs which will be replaced sooner. I've seen references to Yellow and Navy Solos going next year, hopefully the Sky Blue 46/47 (if the funding stays which I understand it may not last forever), and the Grey 53/54. That's 14 buses on current PVR's leaving 12 buses, maybe six will go on Green lines, we'll see.
They have funding to replace the whole single decker fleet, and according to the Buses magazine they have funding for 20 buses they haven't bought yet!
Andy Pacer
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Would make sense then, they'll have to go somewhere!
joieman
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Volvo 735 is currently at Kinchbus on the service 11.
Anyone know if its permanent? New ticket machine would suggest so, 669 just tracked under its regular one when it had a day there
joieman
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Might be a longer-term loan/permanent, as, having inspected my photo of 735 more closely, I've noticed that 735 has a miniature Kinchbus logo below the windscreen like MMC 175.
Photo of 735 in Thorpe Acre today:
Kinchbus 735 (FJ09 BXP)
It's been about five years since Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 735 was last with Kinchbus. It surprisingly turned up on the 11 earlier today. Unlike last time, when 735 only carried the base Mango livery during its stay with Kinchbus, 735's vinyls haven't been removed this time, rather in...
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Yeah, might be till 502 comes back, or some of the mmcs are back to help a bitMight be a longer-term loan/permanent, as, having inspected my photo of 735 more closely, I've noticed that 735 has a miniature Kinchbus logo below the windscreen like MMC 175.
Photo of 735 in Thorpe Acre today:
Kinchbus 735 (FJ09 BXP)
It's been about five years since Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 735 was last with Kinchbus. It surprisingly turned up on the 11 earlier today. Unlike last time, when 735 only carried the base Mango livery during its stay with Kinchbus, 735's vinyls haven't been removed this time, rather in...
Trainman40083
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Word is, there might be a Scania /Irizar coach demonstrator.about to work Red Arrow on loan. Maybe TB feel they can't wait for Volvo/Plaxton to produce a suitable coach in 2 years.
It's probably for the best; 80 broke down in Nottingham earlier, but it seems to be back out now though. 82 sounded like it was going to break down as well. At least the company has some sense and is trying to fix the problem before they have another major coach failure by trying to get more coaches.
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joieman
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As far as I know, 502 is still yet to enter service with Kinchbus. I spotted it sitting in the workshop last week (seen from the bridge over the canal).
Yeah i meant enter service or whatever is happening with it. They currently have 8 vehicles not tracking today. 107 MMC, 109 MMC, 151 MMC, 152 MMC, 153 MMC, 155 MMC, 502 Solo SR and 831 Versa. So its a few vehicles from the fleet. With 108 MMC, 501 Solo Sr and 906 helping on skylink instead of the other routes. I would assume its most likely to be helping permanently until they get a few vehicles back on the road
zakky1.0
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Langley mill seems to be struggling today, funnily enough after just sending another vehicle over to Kinchbus.
3/6 on Ilkeston flyer
3/11 on the two
So just by that they are 11 vehicles short, the B8s seem to be continuously unreliable (can’t say I’m shocked as they were some of the first B8s out of production)
Hopefully the wonderful, ever reliable MMCs can fix the shortages on Ilkeston flyer.
3/6 on Ilkeston flyer
3/11 on the two
So just by that they are 11 vehicles short, the B8s seem to be continuously unreliable (can’t say I’m shocked as they were some of the first B8s out of production)
Hopefully the wonderful, ever reliable MMCs can fix the shortages on Ilkeston flyer.
I noticed the two earlier, heading into Nottingham there was a branded two heading out not in service which lead me to check, i thought it was quite weird that at that time there was only a few vehicles on but i hadn't really checked before at that time so I didn't know if it was normal. Makes sense that they send a bus away while 3 out of the 4 depots got loan vehicles on the weekend. I think H1 might be one of the only services with a pretty much full service. Maybe the 31,32 ect routes too
Never mind, just checked ilkeston routes and they are a few vehicles short, 499 seems to have broken down, certainly isn't tracking. Same for 724
Trainman40083
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Most strange how often some of the coaches break down.
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Never in this world would I ever describe the MMC as reliable. Maybe I've just seen too many break down.
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Of course one of the 15x Skylinks had a car in the back end.
zakky1.0
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It was a very sarcastic comment about the ADLs I can’t say I don’t mind them but they aren’t the greatest.Never in this world would I ever describe the MMC as reliable. Maybe I've just seen too many break down.
Trainman40083
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I'd go as far as to say, so long as there is any alternative, I avoid them completely, even if that means walking. Certainly not sitting under those skylights on a hot day.
I notice trends, 1 swift goes they all go, same with x38. Maybe its just the vehicles age, or that they are at derby instead of a different depot
Trainman40083
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Happens with the Allestree. They seem to fail or have lengthy periods off the road, in numerical order. Then the same with the Mickleover Enviros. Good news for the 6.2. Finally got a service at teatime. I would think many people on that route now discount the bus. TB might claim they are short of buses. Maybe they should get 820/821/824, all nicely painted on the road. They have been off since about end of October, yet 814/815 only off for a couple of months
I assume 814 and 815 had a quicker turn around since they were "helping out" suggesting they have better condition with the engine and stuff. I assume the others are knackered since they have been off road longer and taking longer to fix along with fixing Langley service busses, I assume they are prioritizing them over the repaints since it'll earn them more money. You say about mickleover too, I see 269 is on there today leading it to a full service.
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At this rate they might as well rename Kinchbus to Mango!Might be a longer-term loan/permanent, as, having inspected my photo of 735 more closely, I've noticed that 735 has a miniature Kinchbus logo below the windscreen like MMC 175.
Photo of 735 in Thorpe Acre today:
Kinchbus 735 (FJ09 BXP)
It's been about five years since Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 735 was last with Kinchbus. It surprisingly turned up on the 11 earlier today. Unlike last time, when 735 only carried the base Mango livery during its stay with Kinchbus, 735's vinyls haven't been removed this time, rather in...
Jesus! and the two basically has 3 extra vehicles.
Trainman40083
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Amazing for the Mickleover. 102 parked at the back of the depot, looking like it was towed in.
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The new Wellglade subsidiary "Mango Buses". Fair to say, those Volvo B8RLEs don't seem to be the best.
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Wonder when Skylink Express 744 will be back? Noticed Notts and Derby Solo 485 out again on RR contract this morning. If it is going for painting in May, it only has 11 days to go
joieman
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That was 151.
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I wonder if some people already think that there is a bus service called Mango or something to that effect!
How does Notts & Derby repaint their buses? Do they do it at Langley or Meadow Road. Or an outside company?
Trainman40083
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Well, the Geminis 22 to 30 were done at Bestwood, maybe 475 and 484 too. Think 1405 at Langley Mill. 485 was said to be going to a place at Stratford.. Seems.to be a shortage of capacity. Now some time ago, there was said to be a plan to paint a Lothian Enviro 400, one a week. Even 743/744 went to Blackburn.
Ah, guess they just do it where they can.
I notice only two vehicles on the sixes at the moment. Normally a few more especially on the 6.1
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