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joieman
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I hope not either, for one thing the styling is outdated (and why buy Chinese buses when we Brits can make them ourselves?)
I see the Centrebus 19 to Melton Mowbray is coming back from 3rd June. It will only run Monday to Friday. The timetable still rubbish ,no 6:30am bus from St Mary's Way.
The 7:45am only gets to Nottingham at 20 to 9 (if its on time) . Then you have a mad rush across town to get to the university for 9 .
The 7:45am only gets to Nottingham at 20 to 9 (if its on time) . Then you have a mad rush across town to get to the university for 9 .
Where do you see this?
joieman
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Timetables are on Bustimes:
Hyebone
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Nottingham City Transport's justification was that the Yutongs are just far better than anything British made at this point in time.
I'm curious to see if Wellglade will veer towards Enviro100EVs (and later the Enviro200EV once it becomes available) due to their ties with ADL.
joieman
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I personally prefer either the facelifted Wright GB Kite Electroliner or a longer version of the Mellor Sigma range such as the Sigma 12 when it comes to electric single deckers.
It might be a good idea to order a couple with a central door for the campus shuttle to reduce boarding and alighting times. Double deckers might be a good idea to deal with the student crowds, but I doubt Kinchbus are about to go down either route yet.
tram21
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Incredible news in any form!
Given how popular Saturday leisure traffic is nowadays I'm surprised there is no Saturday service as it does seem Saturdays would be more popular than a Mon-Fri service?
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AFAIK there is no order or decision yet as to what would be ordered, nor any infrastructure works so it will be a couple of years yet and they will definitely need some transferred buses before then!
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Trainman40083
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I guess it will depend upon the daily range such buses need to achieve
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Been a serious incident in Belper today, between a bus (possibly 838) and a pedestrian. A6 was closed for about 5 hours. 6.1 went Derby to Belper, back to Duffield then towards Wirksworth then on diversion to Idridgehay.
MCR247
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I’d argue that we can’t. Or won’t. I can honestly say they are the best built buses I’ve ever been on. They actually feel solid.
And I’d agree with them in that statement.
Robertj21a
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Yes, little doubt that the Yutongs are significantly better than most others. They are also superior in terms of their mileage achieved per change.
tram21
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Fully agree with this, the NCT Yutongs are absolutely incredible buses and honestly mark a new era in comfort of travel on City buses!
cnjb8
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IMO Kinch needs the displaced Volvos before the electrics arrive, which is likely to be in 2025/26 and I can't see the Citaros lasting that long
Yeah, I forgot that they hadn't ordered any yet. Don't know how the volvos will cope since they are already struggling on the routes already
Are there any British buses that are actually decent at the moment!?
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The new green ones have entered service today too! Not yet sampled any but I've not heard any bad things from them (except from those that have a strange vendetta against all electric vehicles)
Trainman40083
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I find some of the anti British bus comments most strange. Any business that wanted to survive would buy the best bus that most met their needs, no matter what. Ideally that might be British, but if British quality, range etc is not good enough, British manufacturing needs to raise their game. The way some talk, we would still be stuck with British Leyland cars from the 1970s.
MCR247
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I don’t think anyone would disagree that British manufacturing needs to raise their game. But with their full order books, clearly they don’t have the incentive to. If anything, more orders going to Yutong would be a good thing as it incentivises others to step up their game.
Trainman40083
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101 to 103 are off today, so it could have been repaired 101 or 103. Noticed that Notts and Derby Nordic 20 is back at Meadow Road, near the railway. Maybe it is about to have a new MOT and be relaxed.
Qwerty133
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Unlikely to be any bigger than the current slimline solos as it’s said that even a full width solo struggles to get around the route.
There was also one in the depot at the back when we drove passed
tram21
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Is there any more news about the 'new' coaches for N+D/ Red Arrow (e.g. the irizars or Interdeck coaches)
Hyebone
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The specification for the ADL Enviro100EV states it has a width of 2.35m.
According to Wikipedia, the Optare Solo SL has a width of 2.33m
If Wellglade stick to their ADL "pals", this seems a viable upgrade.
Trainman40083
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20 and Mick 102 are round the back
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Maybe ADL is part of the unreliability issues, problem
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Well, last I heard Irizar 73 was parked near the brook at the Mill and the Interdecks still in service in Glasgow.
Was it even the plan or just speculation that Trent have bought interdecks? Seems to be a strange choice of vehicle
They could have been trialling them.
Trainman40083
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I think they are mainly for use by Notts and Derby, but available to Trentbarton for Red Arrow. Some kind of stopgap to cover until they can get the type of coaches they would prefer at TB for Red Arrow
tram21
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Has no-one considered/ got the sense to run it much like the Witchway or (until recently) Skyclass X98/X99 up in Yorkshire?
Most likely E400MMCs to a very high spec would provide a much higher passenger experience, and it's not like you can see driver on a coach anyway so that argument doesn't stand.
Trainman40083
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I share your view .
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Must have been 103 seen on the A52. It was available to work the 15.12 to....... Well it stopped in the Wardwick... Unreliable Enviro 200MMCs? Let's buy some more .
On red arrow at the moment, this guy was moaning about how it's been an hour odd since the last red arrow. However I checked and there was one 20 minutes before this one was scheduled however it was slightly late. The one before was a spare vehicle. Maybe people don't even read the destination boards and just expect the bus to be the coach
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