Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

[IamTrainsYT]

Kind of makes me wish ScotRail still had some 150/2s, looks nice and fresh.

Once they got there you wouldn’t! Not sure how long it will stay that “fresh” colour

 

[LOL The Irony]

Is the blue vinyl or painted on?

 

[hexagon789]

Once they got there you wouldn’t! Not sure how long it will stay that “fresh” colour

I don't know, they aren't really ideal other than their door arrangement for local services in Scotland, but if a 23m version with 2+2 existed then I think they would.

Seems a bit if a to do that Northern are getting so few 150s transferred. Obviously done units is better than no units, but it seems a pitiful amount really.

 

[Harvey B]

Is the blue vinyl or painted on?

everythings vinyls I think

 

[OTRail]

everythings vinyls I think

Pretty sure it’s a repaint, only thing vinyled on will be the logos

 

[978wta]

Is the blue vinyl or painted on?

Definitely painted.

 

[Harvey B]

Pretty sure it’s a repaint, only thing vinyled on will be the logos

Definitely painted.

is this the first Northern unit to be painted and not vinyled

 

[Roger B]

It has.

At first I thought that your 'It has' related to wta978's thinking that it was coming back in all white so it could be split and inserted as centre cars. So I was surprised when I saw the photo IamTrainsYT posted yesterday, which clearly shows that is has at least one blue end, and on closer inspection, two.

And then the penny dropped (followed by a loud echo around the cavity between my ears) - your comment was in response to the question 'has it actually had the blue applied to each end?'.

If only everything was that simple!

 

[Murray J]

For those wondering here she is:
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picture from Hyde TMD

Not sure what all the fuss is about. I've already seen pictures of quite a few 150/1s and /2s in the unbranded livery.

 

[OTRail]

is this the first Northern unit to be painted and not vinyled

All Northern units in the new livery so far have been repainted

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Not sure what all the fuss is about. I've already seen pictures of quite a few 150/1s and /2s in the unbranded livery.

Because there were lots of speculations of what livery it was wearing ie. plain white etc.

 

[AMD]

Thanks do I read that that 150 201 hasn't had the PRM bathroom fitted either.

201 has been fully PRM'd including a new toilet.

 

[Murray J]

Because there were lots of speculations of what livery it was wearing ie. plain white etc.

Ah that'll be it then.

 

[M1544]

Surely if 209 has not had a PRM toilet fitted when it went into the works then splitting the set is still likely on the cards at some stage?. It will be slightly annoying for planners to have to diagram it on a separate stand alone diagram always coupled to something else. They might consider splitting it once the 150/0s have arrived and are in service which would then give 4x 3 car units if 209 is split at a similar time.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Surely if 209 has not had a PRM toilet fitted when it went into the works then splitting the set is still likely on the cards at some stage?. It will be slightly annoying for planners to have to diagram it on a separate stand alone diagram always coupled to something else. They might consider splitting it once the 150/0s have arrived and are in service which would then give 4x 3 car units if 209 is split at a similar time.

Permanently couple it to another /2 with the toilet carriage of that unit on the inside?

 

[IamTrainsYT]

Surely if 209 has not had a PRM toilet fitted when it went into the works then splitting the set is still likely on the cards at some stage?. It will be slightly annoying for planners to have to diagram it on a separate stand alone diagram always coupled to something else. They might consider splitting it once the 150/0s have arrived and are in service which would then give 4x 3 car units if 209 is split at a similar time.

Or they just want to save money?

 

[AMD]

Surely if 209 has not had a PRM toilet fitted when it went into the works then splitting the set is still likely on the cards at some stage?. It will be slightly annoying for planners to have to diagram it on a separate stand alone diagram always coupled to something else. They might consider splitting it once the 150/0s have arrived and are in service which would then give 4x 3 car units if 209 is split at a similar time.

Or the current plan hasn't been finalised....
In light of the change of ownership the timetable plan and hence the fleet plan is currently being reviewed, so it's not been decided yet what will happen

 

[Harvey B]

Or the current plan hasn't been finalised....
In light of the change of ownership the timetable plan and hence the fleet plan is currently being reviewed, so it's not been decided yet what will happen

could this also be affected by the Coronavirus

 

[sd0733]

170460 just passed through Crewe working back to Neville Hill on; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/05704/2020-03-24/detailed

 

[Harvey B]

170460 just passed through Crewe working back to Neville Hill on; https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/05704/2020-03-24/detailed

How come that was at crewe? I think all 170s were completed late last year

 

[Neptune]

How come that was at crewe? I think all 170s were completed late last year

Rectification work perhaps. It wouldn’t have been the first.

 

[sd0733]

How come that was at crewe? I think all 170s were completed late last year

It wasnt actually at the works it came from Wolverton I just saw it pass through.

 

[trainmananthon]

How come that was at crewe? I think all 170s were completed late last year

It has come from Wolverton. It was there for damage repairs. I think it hit something which damaged the underside but not too sure exactly what.

 

[Harvey B]

It has come from Wolverton. It was there for damage repairs. I think it hit something which damaged the underside but not too sure exactly what.

I would have guessed something along the lines of damage repairs

 

[trainmananthon]

Sounds like TrainFX has had a major hissy-fit after an update today.

110 Class 15x units declared as failures due to a TrainFX fault following an update.

 

[_toommm_]

Sounds like TrainFX has had a major hissy-fit after an update today.

110 Class 15x units declared as failures due to a TrainFX fault following an update.

Has it disabled the units, or is it that they’re now not allowed to operate because of PRM?

 

[trainmananthon]

Has it disabled the units, or is it that they’re now not allowed to operate because of PRM?

From what I gather an update was sent to the TrainFX server which crashed. When rebooted it sent a corrupt file to the units so subsequently when started up or TrainFX reset it stopped responding resulting in no PA, no Cab - Cab comms, no auto-announcements etc which then deemed the units unfit for service.

 

[_toommm_]

From what I gather an update was sent to the TrainFX server which crashed. When rebooted it sent a corrupt file to the units so subsequently when started up or TrainFX reset it stopped responding resulting in no PA, no Cab - Cab comms, no auto-announcements etc which then deemed the units unfit for service.

Oopsie! Do you know/can you say whether this will affect services tomorrow please?

 

[trainmananthon]

Oopsie! Do you know/can you say whether this will affect services tomorrow please?

Fitters are working hard to rectify the issue tonight.

185 units are supposed to be required for the current timetable.
Today we had 118 ready for service at the start of the day.
110 failed with TrainFX issues. A few others failed with other issues too.

 

[_toommm_]

Fitters are working hard to rectify the issue tonight.

185 units are supposed to be required for the current timetable.
Today we had 118 ready for service at the start of the day.
110 failed with TrainFX issues. A few others failed with other issues too.

Well I wish you all a genuine good luck for tomorrow