No trains today twixt Guide Bridge and Manchester

[billh]

Apparently due to flooding at Fairfield, I can't imagine the cause as it hasn't been raining. Perhaps the nearby reservoirs have leaked! Hadfield trains starting at Guide Bridge and RRBs to and from Manchester ( I saw one a bit since)
Does anyone know the full story?

 

[tomuk]

Here is the story on the ITV website with pics and vid, its a burst water main.

Passengers are being warned of 'severe delays' on the trains after a burst water man has flooded railway tracks at Audenshaw in Manchester.

Train services have been cancelled in both directions between Manchester Piccadilly, Rose Hill and Hadfield, including Stalybridge and Leeds via Guide Bridge.

Flooded railway tracks causing 'severe delays' | ITV News

Passengers are being warned of 'severe delays' on the trains after a burst water man has flooded railway tracks at Audenshaw in Manchester. | ITV News Granada

www.itv.com

 

[M60lad]

Still ongoing this morning according to National Rail, looks like this might not be a quick fix but could be wrong.

I did hear/read somewhere that it's down to a leak in one of the nearby reservoirs not to sure which one and how a reservoir can leak onto the railway and not affect nearby properties though.

 

[scrapy]

Still ongoing this morning according to National Rail, looks like this might not be a quick fix but could be wrong.

I did hear/read somewhere that it's down to a leak in one of the nearby reservoirs not to sure which one and how a reservoir can leak onto the railway and not affect nearby properties though.

The railway here is a lot lower down than the surrounding properties so a natural place for the water to run to. The north end of the reservoir at Debdale Park does is about 200m from the railway tracks. It may be a main running from that.

 

[MisterSheeps]

It may be a main running from that.

"to that" ... the pipes from thirlmere & haweswater go through south Manchester adjacent to the ex GC Chorlton - Fairfield line (now 'Fallowfield Loop' cycle route) to the Audenshaw reservoirs

 

[LittleAH]

Heard this morning it may take a few days to remedy.

 

[M60lad]

Out of interest considering its due to rain over the next couple of days and possibly into next week could the problem get worse and delay the reopening?

 

[YorkshireBear]

Out of interest considering its due to rain over the next couple of days and possibly into next week could the problem get worse and delay the reopening?

Unlikely to add much to it compared to a burst water main

 

[Towers]

I just wanted to mark my approval of your use of the word 'twixt' OP; a word deserving of far greater use than it sees! Bravo

 

[TUC]

I just wanted to mark my approval of your use of the word 'twixt' OP; a word deserving of far greater use than it sees! Bravo

Yes, it gave me an oddly Victorian reassuring feeling.

 

[apk55]

FYI
Recent BBC report on situation

Drone footage shows extent of railway flooding

Flooding caused by a burst water main in Audenshaw has caused trains to be cancelled.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[LOL The Irony]

Ah, united utilities. Expect this to take an age and then not be fully fixed.

 

[billh]

Ah, united utilities. Expect this to take an age and then not be fully fixed.

The RRB was coming out of Guide Bridge station car park, briefly holding the traffic up on Guide Lane, at the front of the queue was....
A United Utilities road tanker

 

[_toommm_]

It seems there's a shuttle running between Hadfield/Glossop and Guide Bridge. Where will that train stable tonight? Or is it a DMU so that it can get back to Manchester via Denton?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

NRE says that "disruption will continue until approx 1200" (Sat 4th).
So maybe the line will reopen later today.

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www.nationalrail.co.uk

 

[yorksrob]

Only some of it. Planned engineering works on the trans-pennine today !

 

[MP393]

It seems there's a shuttle running between Hadfield/Glossop and Guide Bridge. Where will that train stable tonight? Or is it a DMU so that it can get back to Manchester via Denton?

They’re getting 150s to Guide Bridge via Bredbury and reversing at Marple at the start and end of the day to form the Guide Bridge - Hadfield shuttles. Can’t go via Denton as Piccadilly drivers don’t sign it

 

[DaventryRabbit]

They’re getting 150s to Guide Bridge via Bredbury and reversing at Marple at the start and end of the day to form the Guide Bridge - Hadfield shuttles. Can’t go via Denton as Piccadilly drivers don’t sign it

I have heard that although the Water Level is receeding the next inspection of the Line is at 1200
Am on the BLS Charter that was due to go to Hadfield but has been diverted to Chelford Up Loop to kill time...

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Had some of the past-made aspirational postings over the years about the reinstatement of the quadruple line from Ashburys towards Guide Bridge had ever reached the fruition stage, matters would have been far worse than at present.

 

[yorksrob]

Had some of the past-made aspirational postings over the years about the reinstatement of the quadruple line from Ashburys towards Guide Bridge had ever reached the fruition stage, matters would have been far worse than at present.

Why so ? You may have had one pair dry out before the other.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I have heard that although the Water Level is receeding the next inspection of the Line is at 1200
Am on the BLS Charter that was due to go to Hadfield but has been diverted to Chelford Up Loop to kill time...

"Disruption until the end of the day", NRE now says

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Why so ? You may have had one pair dry out before the other.

In this case, was the water flow quite substantial, being fed from a reservoir?

 

[yorksrob]

In this case, was the water flow quite substantial, being fed from a reservoir?

I'm not familiar enough with the incident to know.

 

[MP393]

I have heard that although the Water Level is receeding the next inspection of the Line is at 1200
Am on the BLS Charter that was due to go to Hadfield but has been diverted to Chelford Up Loop to kill time...

I am also on it, hello from Coach B! I’ve heard Chelford is nice this time of year, so nice in fact we’ve seen it 3 times now

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Any news yet from the 1200 inspection of the line?

 

[jonnyfan]

Any news yet from the 1200 inspection of the line?

Latest update at around 1300 was that 3 miles of track need inspecting, so far they have found a sink hole, which should be repaired by 1800. Further update will be by 1800 once they've assessed the full impact.

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Line will remain closed all day tomorrow. Rail replacement buses over the full hadfield route.

 

[snowball]

Network Rail press release with video

Burst water main flood subsides revealing railway bridge damage

Rail passengers are being reminded to check before they travel as work continues to repair flood damaged tracks caused by a burst water main in east Manchester.

www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk

Rail passengers are being reminded to check before they travel as work continues to repair flood damaged tracks caused by a burst water main in east Manchester.

United Utilities has now stopped the major water leak onto the railway in Audenshaw, but it has revealed damage to a railway bridge.

For the last three days Bessemer Street bridge between Ashburys and Gorton stations has become a waterfall.

Thousands of gallons of fast flowing water have fallen from the railway above into the road below, flooding it and washing away mortar inside the structure.

It means trains travelling through the area will be suspended for a fourth day on Sunday 4 September while Network Rail engineers make urgent repairs.

Train services cannot run in either direction between Manchester Piccadilly, Rose Hill and Hadfield, as well as Stalybridge and Leeds via Guide Bridge.

 

[SteelWeelApeal]

Has there been any attempt at diverting services from Hadfield via Denton to Stockport for the frequent connections to Manchester there? Surprised nobody has suggested it.

 

[MisterSheeps]

"to that" ... the pipes from thirlmere & haweswater go through south Manchester adjacent to the ex GC Chorlton - Fairfield line (now 'Fallowfield Loop' cycle route) to the Audenshaw reservoirs

 

[175001]

Has there been any attempt at diverting services from Hadfield via Denton to Stockport for the frequent connections to Manchester there? Surprised nobody has suggested it.

Of course it had been suggested.

Only little issue is that Man Vic sign it and its only a few certain drivers who sign it. And Victoria is short of crew to cover our own work as it is.

Far easier to do the train plan as its been done past few days.