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From the country that brought the detective mastery of Sherlock Holmes, and the great fictional work of Inspector Morse, Poirot and Miss Marple, and not forgetting Bergerac in the village of Midsomer comes a tail of investigative skill and disbelief. Yes, after an incorrect assumption of 269 years, a historian has finally proved that Stilton cheese comes from the village of...........
Stilton!
Please see the article here http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article...om_Stilton&in_article_id=741308&in_page_id=34. Rumour that this historian is on the brink of finding the origins of Champagne and what religion the Pope follows are unconfirmed.
 
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Rumour that this historian is on the brink of finding the origins of Champagne

Champagne doesn't come from the Champagne region of France, despite being named after it, but from southern England, in an area where the soil is of the same type as it is in Champagne.

Just because something's named after a place doesn't mean it comes from there originally, so this isn't as stupid as it sounds.
 

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Dr of 'the bleedin obvious' I see. One would have thought that these things were not a mystery at all.

He should try and solve the Jack the Ripper case.

I can assure you that Oranges did not originate from the town of Orange, nor did Banisters come from Banister or did Cardigans come from Cardigan.

He aught to come out and say that New Zealand is actually just a myth! lol
 

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I think this is part of the process to protect the brand name. Wensleydale cheese has just applied for protected name status as well. After all, we don't want to turn out like "cheddar", which has probably never been near the gorge in its life.
 

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Bergerac was set in Jersey and Poirot was Belgian.
Is sarcasm something other people get? Agatha Christie was English, Poirot I'm afraid to upset you was fictional. I merely said Bergerac because of the John Nettles connection. Thanks for trying to make me look silly, and failing.
 

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Champagne doesn't come from the Champagne region of France, despite being named after it, but from southern England, in an area where the soil is of the same type as it is in Champagne.

Still not correct, but not a million miles off.

Champagne was "invented" by the English, as it was they who had the technology to make bottles and corks strong enough to deal with the pressures exerted by a fizzy wine. From the 16th Century they had developed a taste for the fizzy wine and would import flat, green wine from the Champagne region of France and add sugar and molasses to start off the fermentation process. The French contribution to Champagne didn't start until much later by adding marketing finesse and expertise in blending the grape varieties.

The connection between Southern England and Champagne is even more modern. Apparently, parts of Kent and Sussex have the same geology, soil conditions and weather as the Champagne region of France. This means that an English "Champagne" should be as good as a French one because the grapes should grow just as well this side of The Channel.

A couple of other bits of Champagne trivia.

The Treaty of Madrid (1891) states that only sparkling wine from the Champagne region may use the name Champagne. This was reaffirmed by the Treaty of Versailles (1919). However, as the USA signed it's own seperate peace treaty with Germany at the end of the First World War they are not bound by the terms of the treaty. This mean that they can exploit a legal loophole and call their own domestically produced sparkling wines "Champagne". By a quirk, in the USA the genuine article imported direct from France is labelled as a "Sparkling Wine".

The saucer-shaped coupe glass that is reputed to have been modelled on the breast of Marie Antoinette is also an English invention. It also first appeared in 1663, well before the reign of the aforementioned French Queen.

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