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No service between Bolton & Preston 25/03/26

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There has been major disruption to services between Bolton and Preston/Wigan due to overnight damage to the overhead line equipment owing to fallen trees.

Strong winds brought several trees down overnight causing damage to lines in the Lostock area, which has disrupted passengers.

This is the 2nd major disruption in a week, following incident near Euxton Junction on 18 March, which again resulted in major disruption for the majority of the day.
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The only services running between Manchester and Bolton have been Clitheroe/Blackburn to Rochdale.

All other services have been cancelled entirely (2tph Blackpool North), diverted via Atherton (1tph Southport to Oxford Rd), curtailed to Manchester Victoria (1tph Southport to Stalybridge) or diverted via Golborne/curtailed at Preston (1tph each of Cumbria/Scotland).

Northern's response & management of both incidents has been poor on both occasions, due to:

Inconsistent messages about rail replacement buses (the service message initially states RRBs will be not provided, yet later provides details of RRBs departing hourly)

Abandonment of service for Farnworth/Kearsley/Moses Gate in am peak, and later inconsistent application of special stop orders.

Use of 2 carriage trains on the Blackburn services, and not redeploying stock from cancelled Southport services, causing severe overcrowding on the only services running. Also rendering the above special stop orders pointless.

No self-contained Manchester Airport to Bolton shuttle. I presume there is a OLE switch north of the station which would allow this?
 
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Still closed according to Traksy.
Looks like it's happened before Lostock Junction.
Northern's response & management of both incidents has been poor on both occasions, due to:

Inconsistent messages about rail replacement buses (the service message initially states RRBs will be not provided, yet later provides details of RRBs departing hourly)
It has been poor, according to Northern's website there will be no RRBs.
Abandonment of service for Farnworth/Kearsley/Moses Gate in am peak, and later inconsistent application of special stop orders.
I imagine those trains would be completely chocca before reaching Moses Gate, like any other day lol!


And guess where I have to be in the morning? Bolton.
Contingency plan is No.8 Bee bus from Shudehill, Manchester.
Uber is not bad either if in a rush, around £13.
 

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When the wires are down, do they reuse the old wire once it’s untangled or is it all new wire.
 

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If the weather down there has been anything like here in North Lancashire I'm not surprised
Severe winds yesterday, overnight and till around 3pm today probably made any OHLE work unsafe.
Also the winds were strong enough in my opinion for some companies to withdraw double deckers from service, putting a premium on any single deckers that would normally be available
Doesn't surprise me at all that things were problematic
 

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There was stop orders for intermediate stations to Bolton from pretty much 5am and in the afternoon we had them switched to the 4 car Clitheroe services that were all (going to be) put back to 4 cars. Southport trains were cut back to a shuttle from Victoria to Staly from about 12. Wasn't a lot to redeploy from anywhere as 769s mostly came out in the morning later to be parked

I'm not sure how there could be any confusion between Bolton and Manchester nothing else was running! There was certainly no abandonment going on. If anything Farnworth etc actually had a better more reliable service thanks to no 769s being in the mix later on.
 
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Southbound train from Preston > Deansgate at 17:11 wasn't so bad despite disruption and managed to get a taxi home from my gig tonight. I imagine my case is incredibly lucky but there was no communication at Preston around RRBs at the time for anyone going to Chorley or Bolton.
 

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Instead of cancelling 2tph between Manchester and Blackpool North why weren't they diverted via Chat Moss and Wigan Northwestern?

As a result of this incident are TPE short of a unit? As it seems that it was one of their Anglo Scottish services that was involved in this incident.
 
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Services cancelled or delayed again this morning in the area. Anyone know why? Northern's X page says services are no longer being affected by the OLE problem. 0555 from Blackpool North cancelled with the 0622 running 20+ minutes late.
 

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Services cancelled or delayed again this morning in the area. Anyone know why? Northern's X page says services are no longer being affected by the OLE problem. 0555 from Blackpool North cancelled with the 0622 running 20+ minutes late.
NRE is saying "Person hit by a train" between Manchester Airport and Piccadilly, disruptpn until 0930.

A Lancaster-Euston Avanti was cancelled because of "Lineside vegetation", presumably a fallen tree somewhere.
Stafford-Wolverhampton is also still closed until 1230 as yesterday's OHLE damage from a fallen tree near Penkridge is not repaired yet.
 

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NRE is saying "Person hit by a train" between Manchester Airport and Piccadilly, disruptpn until 0930.

A Lancaster-Euston Avanti was cancelled because of "Lineside vegetation", presumably a fallen tree somewhere.
Stafford-Wolverhampton is also still closed until 1230 as yesterday's OHLE damage from a fallen tree near Penkridge is not repaired yet.
That seems to be taking quite a while for the Penkridge tree. My understanding is that it was Tuesday evening that came down. Has there been something preventing the repair?
 

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There was stop orders for intermediate stations to Bolton from pretty much 5am
Unfortunately this was not until nearer 10am, aside from the usual peak southbound calls at Moses Gate/Farnworth (where no passengers could board due to overcrowding from Bolton)
 

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That seems to be taking quite a while for the Penkridge tree. My understanding is that it was Tuesday evening that came down. Has there been something preventing the repair?
Actually the Lancaster-Euston was via Birmingham (9A31) so probably affected by the Penkridge closure.
 

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I was involved in this again yesterday (Wednesday March 25th) like last week as I was booked on 08.17 Preston to Euston via Birmingham. Got to Preston station around 07.00 and saw all the cancellations. Many were told if going to stations from Oxford road to the airport to get on the TPE train which I assume was going via Chatt Moss.

My London train in the end left only 5 minutes late and skipped Birmingham route entirely so after Stafford, next stop Euston for an 18 minutes early arrival.
 
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Instead of cancelling 2tph between Manchester and Blackpool North why weren't they diverted via Chat Moss and Wigan Northwestern?

As a result of this incident are TPE short of a unit? As it seems that it was one of their Anglo Scottish services that was involved in this incident.

Not even that is needed 323s/331s are cleared for Westhoughton running. Man Vic/Blackpool/Wigan crews all sign this route no?
 

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How long will it take for the wires to be fixed on average? I'm planning on taking that line on Saturday.
 

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Not even that is needed 323s/331s are cleared for Westhoughton running. Man Vic/Blackpool/Wigan crews all sign this route no?
Yesterday's issues were between Bolton and Lostock i.e. the route to Westhoughton was affected.
 

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As a result of this incident are TPE short of a unit? As it seems that it was one of their Anglo Scottish services that was involved in this incident.

No. The 397 involved was retrieved, inspected and put back in service by mid afternoon.

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How long will it take for the wires to be fixed on average? I'm planning on taking that line on Saturday.

The line has reopened.
 
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Instead of cancelling 2tph between Manchester and Blackpool North why weren't they diverted via Chat Moss and Wigan Northwestern?

As a result of this incident are TPE short of a unit? As it seems that it was one of their Anglo Scottish services that was involved in this incident.
Is there capacity to do so on the WCML between Preston and Wigan? They already divert the Barrow/Windermere Northern and Anglo-Scottish TPEs, and in the case of a recent disruption at Bolton with a passenger fatality they were recommending people take the Avanti to Wigan North Western then get a train to Manchester Vicotira.
 
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