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CrumbleApple02

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I was given a letter for a travel incident report for providing an expired railcard. I sent an email apologising for my mistake and sent any evidence I deemed to be important. The automatic email reply said there would be a potential delay of 10 days, however it has been 10 days and there has been no response.


I am anxious as it is a few days from the 21 day response limit given in the original letter, in which i fear they will increase the punishment.

Should I send a follow up email?
 
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Please upload the letter you have received with any personal details and reference numbers obscured so forum members can assess.

Are you admitting that you did not have a valid railcard?

Surely if you have replied then you have replied and the ball is in their court?
 

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I was given a letter for a travel incident report for providing an expired railcard. I sent an email apologising for my mistake and sent any evidence I deemed to be important. The automatic email reply said there would be a potential delay of 10 days, however it has been 10 days and there has been no response.


I am anxious as it is a few days from the 21 day response limit given in the original letter, in which i fear they will increase the punishment.

Should I send a follow up email?
which rail company did this involve?

The 21 days in their initial letter was presumably the 21 days you had to reply to them - it's not a promise they would conclude the case in 21 days - and I suspect the 10 days mentioned in their auto e-mail reply is a 'hope' not a guarantee on their part.

If there were any complexities* about your case than I doubt you would have any chance of them completing their decisions in 10 days although it does tend to vary from company to company.

If you give us a bit more info about things then people will be able to give you a more informed response.

* in the case of an expired railcard used by mistake they will probably be getting your ticket buying records from another on line retailer to see if there were other instances of travel with the expired railcard on your part - so they can seek to charge you for new tickets for those trips as well - this is standard proactive now from what we see on here - so as to know what to expect have you checked your ticket buying history from the date of Railcard expiry to the date you were stopped to see if you did travel on incorrect tickets on other occasions? It's worth you doing that for your own private records as it might give you some idea as to what sum they might ask from you as part of any 'settlement' they might hopefully opt to offer you.
 

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which rail company did this involve?

The 21 days in their initial letter was presumably the 21 days you had to reply to them - it's not a promise they would conclude the case in 21 days - and I suspect the 10 days mentioned in their auto e-mail reply is a 'hope' not a guarantee on their part.

If there were any complexities* about your case than I doubt you would have any chance of them completing their decisions in 10 days although it does tend to vary from company to company.

If you give us a bit more info about things then people will be able to give you a more informed response.

* in the case of an expired railcard used by mistake they will probably be getting your ticket buying records from another on line retailer to see if there were other instances of travel with the expired railcard on your part - so they can seek to charge you for new tickets for those trips as well - this is standard proactive now from what we see on here - so as to know what to expect have you checked your ticket buying history from the date of Railcard expiry to the date you were stopped to see if you did travel on incorrect tickets on other occasions? It's worth you doing that for your own private records as it might give you some idea as to what sum they might ask from you as part of any 'settlement' they might hopefully opt to offer you.
It was Northern. I don’t think there were many complexities, just an expired railcard. The letter asks for an explanation as to why it happened, and concluded by saying that if they do not receive a response in 21 days that the matter may progress without my comments being considered.
 

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It was Northern. I don’t think there were many complexities, just an expired railcard. The letter asks for an explanation as to why it happened, and concluded by saying that if they do not receive a response in 21 days that the matter may progress without my comments being considered.
OK - by my example of complexity it will be the wait to get your ticket buying history from trainline or whoever you use, if they are looking at that.

If you had an auto reply to your mitigation response then you know they got your response - so basically just wait until you hear from them - assuming you are not going away for a prolonged period eg holidays etc I don't think you have any cause for concern yet.

If you don't hear from them within 4 to 6 weeks you could maybe e-mail them again and ask when you can expect to hear.
 

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OK - by my example of complexity it will be the wait to get your ticket buying history from trainline or whoever you use, if they are looking at that.

If you had an auto reply to your mitigation response then you know they got your response - so basically just wait until you hear from them - assuming you are not going away for a prolonged period eg holidays etc I don't think you have any cause for concern yet.

If you don't hear from them within 4 to 6 weeks you could maybe e-mail them again and ask when you can expect to hear.
Thank you for your response, that’s very helpful.
 
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