Spotted this today. I was taking the 09:36 train from Bellgrove to Springburn. Ticket inspector comes up and this young guy, must have been 20-ish (not a ned, suited up) just barks out of nowhere "You've f***ing checked my ticket ya balloon" (the ticket guy was rather stout). I thought that cheek was unbelievable. The ticket guy then said "Aye all right. No need for that" and came up to me for my ticket.
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No need to give cheek to the Ticket Guy!
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If that was my train, I would have thrown a fire extinguisher.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Xenophon PCDGS
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I have seen similar occurences with racial overtones used by a "chav" on Salford Crescent station, but the rail member chose to totally ignore those overtones and carried out his job calmly and with the retention of his dignity.When passengers, including students from the University moved to help, the "chav" fled.
Saw the same sort of behaviour at Luton Airport Parkway recently, when a passenger discovered he'd have to pay to use the bus to the airport. Despite it only being £4 for him and his wife, he launched into a tirade of abuse aimed at the driver and conductor. Disgusting, and they still let him travel!
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Best reaction possible I think
dk1
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Chuck them off. Even if they get a later service the traincrew have the satisfaction of inconveniencing them & hopefully spoiling their day. No need whatsoever for the great British Chav'y public. Manners cost nowt.
A better response would have been.
"Yes. Thank you sir. And I would like to check your ticket again, please."
(Lout reluctantly hands over the ticket)
"Where and when did you buy this ticket? And how did you pay for it?"
(Lout backs down or BTP is called)
Chapeltom
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Always a bit frustrating to be asked for ticket again when its a bit of an effort to get it back out again. However, I'd simply show them and not say anything.
dk1
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Then isnt it good that revenue protection is being effectivley enforced? Thats probably the real reason certain people take offence!! I am always happy to see regular ticket checks & it isnt such a chore to reach into your pocket is it?
SS4
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I think we all agree it's a good thing yet it doesn't preclude it from being frustrating. It just so happens that the frustration is the lesser of two evils especially if, like me, you have to get your railcard out of your wallet too.
I tend to put my tickets and my railcard on the table so when the guard comes round the tickets are easy to grab although I did bump into the guard when leaving the toilet, no idea what he thought since I had a valid first advance for the journey
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You don't know Glasgow, the poor guy could have been assaulted
dk1
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Still dont get it. It's so easy. These same people spend the whole journey getting their mobiles out & checking their facebook updates!! They should just sort themselves out & if they put the ticket at the bottom of the rucksack then they're just daft.
I've seen that happen before. I'd like to see the prat try and remember the exact details of every ticket on a train.
I travel from Partick to Blairhill a lot, and often get checked twice because most people get on/off in the Central Glasgow area. I don't make a big deal of it. It's possible that that's been what's happened here (he's maybe been checked somewhere to the West of the City). I generally keep my ticket on me at all times, either in my hand, lying on the table, or sometimes in my back pocket. I don't see the point in wasting everyone's time keeping it hidden in the wallet and making a rather large scene when the guard comes into the carriage.
I vaguely remember coming home from York once one young lady (who was going from London-Edinburgh) went into a strop when the guard asked to see her ticket because she'd already shown it to someone. That someone had left the train at York. Still, she refused to show it again given that it was such an inconvenience to go into her handbag. However, she found it rather more convenient than paying the price that the guard quoted for the return ticket, and eventually realised that pulling a small ticket out of your purse isn't all that difficult.
I travel from Partick to Blairhill a lot, and often get checked twice because most people get on/off in the Central Glasgow area. I don't make a big deal of it. It's possible that that's been what's happened here (he's maybe been checked somewhere to the West of the City). I generally keep my ticket on me at all times, either in my hand, lying on the table, or sometimes in my back pocket. I don't see the point in wasting everyone's time keeping it hidden in the wallet and making a rather large scene when the guard comes into the carriage.
I vaguely remember coming home from York once one young lady (who was going from London-Edinburgh) went into a strop when the guard asked to see her ticket because she'd already shown it to someone. That someone had left the train at York. Still, she refused to show it again given that it was such an inconvenience to go into her handbag. However, she found it rather more convenient than paying the price that the guard quoted for the return ticket, and eventually realised that pulling a small ticket out of your purse isn't all that difficult.
SS4
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It's still frustrating. What if your partner asked you to get something an hour after they asked you for the same thing beforehand? It's frustrating but less so than arguing with them.
Those putting it at the bottom of their rucksack get what's coming to them because it's certainly daft but it's fair to say that getting one's ticket checked twice in one journey (excluding any return trip) is relatively rare
dk1
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It's a train journey & it happens. Passengers can be so crotchety :roll:
SS4
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On the same token it still remains frustrating or simply inconvenient. It may be the lesser of two evils but that doesn't make it less frustrating than showing your ticket once.
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I had someone once INSIST I had seen their ticket leaving London, if I couldn't remember them it was my fault.
I had to point out to them that the TM I took over from was about 8 inches taller than me, 20 years younger than me, and African.
The guy did have a ticket, and just had a bad memory and an attitude.
For the second time in a day....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rain-rage-woman-ticket-collector-woke-up.html
I had to point out to them that the TM I took over from was about 8 inches taller than me, 20 years younger than me, and African.
The guy did have a ticket, and just had a bad memory and an attitude.
For the second time in a day....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rain-rage-woman-ticket-collector-woke-up.html
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Here, as someone who checks tickets - you'd be surprised how many people I forget I've checked and how many people go to produce their tickets every time I come down the train. (can they not differentiate between 'Any Broomhill tickets, please?' and 'Any Aviemore tickets, please?'
passmore
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Best reaction possible from the inspector.
Fighting fire with fire in this day and age only leads to bawls of 'my human rights have been breached' and invariably the punishment will be biased against the inspector.
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its not difficult leave ticket easily accesable...... then it inconveniences no one, i am always pleased a thorough ticket check is being done. as some conductors rely on people asking him for a ticket and some people get away with just sitting there looking like theyve been there a while....
Xenophon PCDGS
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The difference that some people fail to recognise is that there is the system which you describe above, from station to station sectors on a rolling basis, which is very easily to understand and then there is the "all tickets" master check that occurs at split RP sections on a long distance train. Every time that the second option is to occur when I have travelled on long distance trains, there has been a clearly announced statement that this will be happening.
I can't remember where, but at least one of the countries that I've travelled by rail has a system where the guard takes your ticket, stamps it with his own distinctive punch/stamp, and then puts it into a pouch in front of you (a bit like a reservation ticket slot), so that any personnel who take over from him later can see which tickets have been checked (presumably with his distinctive stamp). Seems a sensible idea...
Invincibles
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They did a similar thing in America that involved putting something in a slot on the overhead rack to show which tickets had been checked. seemed a very simple system but not possible with standees
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