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9 pages for 9 lockdown parties. Tw@s. I will be attending my Grandad's this Christmas, eff Boris, eff politicians and eff the government.

Anyways, back to reading my Sunday night fix of webcomics and another week of attempting to pretend we aren't in this living nightmare ****hole.
 
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And it will all work out nicely for them. If everybody is so fed up with Johnson & Co. blatantly ignoring the rules that they pay little attention to them, the politicians will then say that it is all our fault when things get even worse. (“Blah, blah, things that happened in the past are irrelevant. You are the reason our wonderfully thought out rules failed. You’ve only yourselves to blame for granny’s death.”) Of course, if it does go well (theoretically possible), then it will be, “Pat us on the back and vote for us for producing the answer.”
 

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In January a friend of mine died in a car accident, he died on his birthday and he was only in his early 20s, he left behind a broken family, a distraught fiance and a just 7 week old baby boy. He was only allowed 30 people at his funeral, face masks mandatory and no wake to celebrate his life, instead many of us had to watch the funeral online and drink to him alone, if there was no restrictions that crematorium would have been absolutely heaving, it would have been packed to the rafters.

So my mate was denied the send off he deserved, meanwhile Downing St was the host of many a party as the rules they thought clearly didn't apply to them.

If any more restrictions are bought in I will not be complying.
My condolences about your friend.
 

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In January a friend of mine died in a car accident, he died on his birthday and he was only in his early 20s, he left behind a broken family, a distraught fiance and a just 7 week old baby boy. He was only allowed 30 people at his funeral, face masks mandatory and no wake to celebrate his life, instead many of us had to watch the funeral online and drink to him alone, if there was no restrictions that crematorium would have been absolutely heaving, it would have been packed to the rafters.

So my mate was denied the send off he deserved, meanwhile Downing St was the host of many a party as the rules they thought clearly didn't apply to them.

If any more restrictions are bought in I will not be complying.
My Dad missed his mother's funeral. So did the rest of us. I think that was April.

My most heartfelt condolences, Aaron.
 

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If any more restrictions are bought in I will not be complying.

You won't be the only one.

If there is another lockdown, I will go and make a non essential journey by train on the first day, just to make a point of telling Boris what he can do with his restrictions.
 

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This picture happened around 2 weeks before Cummings talked about his Barnard Castle adventure in the very same location of that gathering pictured. This would explain why Johnson so rigorously defended Cummings last year; the latter had dirt on him in the form of his own lockdown breach.
 

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Surely someone in the Tory party who is anti restriction is leaking these at the opportune moment to undermine the government to stop them being able to impose restrictions?
 

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Surely someone in the Tory party who is anti restriction is leaking these at the opportune moment to undermine the government to stop them being able to impose restrictions?

Definitely seems like it. But could just as well be anti-Johnson. He very much seems to have fallen out of favour.

One wonders the extent to which Cummings is behind all this, but it doesn't just have to be him. Johnson has many enemies, and seems to have spent the last 18 months making more of them.


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Surely someone in the Tory party who is anti restriction is leaking these at the opportune moment to undermine the government to stop them being able to impose restrictions?

Certainly very plausible.
 

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This picture happened around 2 weeks before Cummings talked about his Barnard Castle adventure in the very same location of that gathering pictured. This would explain why Johnson so rigorously defended Cummings last year; the latter had dirt on him in the form of his own lockdown breach.
Indeed. And explains why Cummings is so vigorously pursuing him after being ousted.
 

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If it was a work meeting why was Carrie there? I didn't think she was part of the Government.
 

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Because it's the No. 10 garden and she lives at No.10?
How many work meetings do you go to where people bring their partners along?

Presumably, if you work from home and live with a partner, it's also totally normal for them to join your work Zoom calls?

She may live there but that does not mean she has any business being involved in government meetings.

So they are either admitting she was given privileged access to government meetings, or that this was a social gathering first and foremost...
 

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Presumably, if you work from home and live with a partner, it's also totally normal for them to join your work Zoom calls?

She may live there but that does not mean she has any business being involved in government meetings.

So they are either admitting she was given privileged access to government meetings, or that this was a social gathering first and foremost...
What Zoom call? There was, as far as I can see, no Zoom call in that garden photo.
 

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What Zoom call? There was, as far as I can see, no Zoom call in that garden photo.
Principle is the same. If you were on a work Zoom call would you invite your partner along? No.

If you were going somewhere on a business trip would you invite your partner along? No.

Either she is getting improper access to top government officials or this was a social gathering. Dominic Raab as good as admitted it was the latter.
 

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Principle is the same. If you were on a work Zoom call would you invite your partner along? No.

If you were going somewhere on a business trip would you invite your partner along? No.

Either she is getting improper access to top government officials or this was a social gathering. Dominic Raab as good as admitted it was the latter.
So you know exactly what was being discussed at the point the photo was taken? Interesting.
It couldn't possible be that it was a work meeting that had just concluded when she joined them.
 

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So you know exactly what was being discussed at the point the photo was taken? Interesting.
It couldn't possible be that it was a work meeting that had just concluded when she joined them.
It is possible that it was a work meeting that had just concluded, however given the number of acts of hypocrisy there have been from this government I am not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt on it as they don't deserve it.
 

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The more people try and defend these incidents, the more we'll get more photos, videos and texts leaked and surely people will give up?
 

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It is possible that it was a work meeting that had just concluded, however given the number of acts of hypocrisy there have been from this government I am not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt on it as they don't deserve it.
I think you have hit the nail on the head here. For well over a year and a half we have been given accounts of events some of which are subsequently found to have only a distant relationship with reality.

Sceptics like me are always going to take any defence with a pinch of salt but the problem is that this has spread to neutrals and, even, to natural supporters. To me, the deception is worse than the original act, and I don't think I am along in that.
 

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So you know exactly what was being discussed at the point the photo was taken? Interesting.
What else do you suggest was being discussed? A cabinet minister has admitted it wasn't work related.

It couldn't possible be that it was a work meeting that had just concluded when she joined them.
If it had concluded, then under the laws in force at the time, all of the people involved had an obligation to return home unless they had another reasonable excuse for remaining.

It doesn't exactly look like any of them are leaving.
 

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Wasn't expecting this:


The Met Police has referred itself to a police watchdog following a complaint about how it handled an alleged Christmas party in Downing Street during last year's Covid restrictions.
The Green Party's Baroness Jones argued that officers outside No 10 "must have known" if an unlawful gathering had taken place.
She suggested they may have "deliberately failed to enforce" rules.
The complaint has now been sent to the Independent Office for Police Conduct.
Last month, the Mirror newspaper reported that Downing Street Christmas party had taken place on 18 December last year, when London was under strict coronavirus restrictions.
A source has told the BBC there was food and drink and that the gathering went on past midnight.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ordered an inquiry into the allegations, which is being led by senior civil servant Sue Gray.

The Met Police said it was not beginning an investigation the allegations "based on the absence of evidence and in line with our policy not to investigate retrospective breaches of such regulations".
The statement added that the Met had spoken to the government about its own inquiry and that "if any evidence is found as a result of that investigation, it will be passed to the Met for further consideration".
 

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Wasn't expecting this:

I don't suppose Downing Street was either, they'll be glad of the four day holiday. More bad news for Cressida Dick. It's all over the websites; that's tomorrow's front pages written.
 

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I don't suppose Downing Street was either, they'll be glad of the four day holiday. More bad news for Cressida Dick. It's all over the websites; that's tomorrow's front pages written.
I'd like to see it all over tomorrow's front pages, but I'm not sure at this point in time how that's possible?
 

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Wasn't expecting this:


Complaint rejected on a technicality - the complainant was not affected by the police (in)action nor was she representing anyone affected.

BBC News - Watchdog rejects complaint

Watchdog rejects Met complaint over No 10 party​

The police watchdog has rejected a complaint over how the Metropolitan Police handled allegations of a Christmas party in No 10 last year.
The force referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct after a complaint from Green Party peer Baroness Jones.
She argued officers outside No 10 "must have known" if an unlawful gathering had taken place during lockdown.
But the IOPC released a statement, saying the referral was "invalid".
Last month, the Mirror newspaper reported that a Downing Street Christmas party had taken place on 18 December last year, when London was under strict coronavirus restrictions.
A source has told the BBC there had been food and drink and that the gathering had gone on past midnight.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ordered an inquiry into the allegations about this and other gatherings, which is being led by senior civil servant Sue Gray.
  • Which Downing Street gatherings are being investigated?
  • Johnson: Garden photo shows people working
The Met Police said it was not beginning an investigation into the allegations, "based on the absence of evidence and in line with our policy not to investigate retrospective breaches of such regulations".
The statement added that the Met had spoken to the government about its own inquiry and that "if any evidence is found as a result of that investigation, it will be passed to the Met for further consideration".
But Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb said police working outside No 10 controlled "all access to and from Downing Street".
"Put very simply, if there was an unlawful gathering taking place at No 10 Downing Street, then the police must have known and were highly likely to have played an active part in organising or facilitating the illegal gathering," she added.
"I believe there is a case to answer for the police aiding and abetting a criminal offence or deliberately failing to enforce the law in favour of government politicians and their staff."
She also argued that Met Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick's decision not to investigate the reported party represented "a potential cover-up".
As a result, Acting Detective Chief Superintendent Tony O'Sullivan of the Met Police said he had referred the complaint to the IOPC, "given that you effectively allege misconduct in public office by MPS [Metropolitan Police Service] police officers".
But the watchdog has dismissed her complaint.

'Reminded force of obligations'​

In a statement, they said a "valid complaint" could only be made when "an individual, or someone acting on their behalf, has been adversely affected by the alleged conduct or its effects".
And as there was no evidence Baroness Jones had been nearby when the event took place, "we have decided it is invalid".
However, the IOPC added: "If evidence were to come to light that anyone serving with the police may have breached standards of professional behaviour or committed a criminal offence, linked to the alleged party, we have reminded the Metropolitan Police of its obligations to refer relevant matters to us, irrespective of whether or not a valid complaint has been made."
Det Ch Supt O'Sullivan said he had referred the second part of Baroness' Jones' complaint - that the police commissioner had not investigated the allegation of a party in No 10 - to the London Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPC) which sets the direction and budget for the Met.
An MOPC spokesperson said: "A complaint has been received and is under consideration."
 

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Dominic Cummings claimed 2 days ago he'd be releasing a blog the following day about "Photos & parties". So far though no such blog or any other form of evidence has been released from him, suggesting he was either lying, or someone else intervened to stop him releasing anything (such as through bribes or threats):


blog tmrw on photos & parties...
 

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I don't suppose Downing Street was either, they'll be glad of the four day holiday. More bad news for Cressida Dick. It's all over the websites; that's tomorrow's front pages written.
Sadly, there's no such thing as bad news for Cressida Dick. Whatever happens, they close ranks.
 

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Dominic Cummings claimed 2 days ago he'd be releasing a blog the following day about "Photos & parties". So far though no such blog or any other form of evidence has been released from him, suggesting he was either lying, or someone else intervened to stop him releasing anything (such as through bribes or threats):

Apart from having an enormous chip on his shoulder, is Cummings doing anything else now?
 
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