NFM22 ticket routeing changes

[mikeg]

I've been doing some late night sifting through the fares in NFM22 and have noticed that fares from Tyneside to Lancaster have been changed from 'Any Permitted' to 'Via Carlisle' - are they allowed to do this? I always thought the routeing on 'any permitted' tickets was protected.

I think I know with the history of the routeing guide why this has been the case, but how were they able to do it?

 

[lyndhurst25]

In this case does the Routeing Guide still say "yes" for routes avoiding Carlisle, but the withdrawal of tickets routed "Any Permitted" now mean that the answer is effectively "no"?

 

[mikeg]

At the moment the only permitted routes are via Carlisle anyway, but until about a year ago Newcastle to Lancaster was valid via Manchester.

 

[lyndhurst25]

Seems strange that they felt the need to have "Via Carlisle" printed on the tickets then, if that is now the only valid route.

Are there any examples of routes that are valid according to the Routeing Guide, but have been made impossible to buy tickets for by withdrawing the "Any Permitted" fare and replacing it with a "Via X" fare? That would be changing the Routing Guide by stealth.

 

[OwlMan]

Seems strange that they felt the need to have "Via Carlisle" printed on the tickets then, if that is now the only valid route.

Are there any examples of routes that are valid according to the Routeing Guide, but have been made impossible to buy tickets for by withdrawing the "Any Permitted" fare and replacing it with a "Via X" fare? That would be changing the Routing Guide by stealth.

The normal method is to introduce a "via Station A" route using the TOC's preferred route at the old "any Permitted" price ; and then increasing the price of the any permitted.
see https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/rugby_birmingham_rail_fare_corre#incoming-414651
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/rugby_birmingham_any_permitted_f#incoming-427771