Newton Heath TMD derailment

[mikemcniven]

Derailment at Newton Heath TMD affecting services in Manchester this morning. Already affected services further away with some Hazel Grove services cancelled, I presume as services trapped in the TMD. Second derailment in Manchester in 24 hours.

Edit: apparently is 150118 after been towed back from Knutsford after the incident on Sunday.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/151978.aspx

A derailed train between Rochdale and Manchester Victoria is disrupting trains between these stations. As the train is blocking the route into the train depot, services across the network are being affected. The following alterations apply:

Trains are unable to run from Rochdale into Manchester Victoria
Services from Leeds heading to Manchester will terminate at Rochdale
Road transport is being arranged to run between Manchester Victoria and Rochdale

Disruption is expected to continue until 11:00.

Customer advice:
You can use your ticket on Metrolink between Rochdale and Manchester Victoria.

Twitter: If you would like to follow this incident on Twitter, please use #Rochdale

 

[syorksdeano]

That train has really caused problems this week

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[Peter Mugridge]

That train has really caused problems this week

Maybe they'll re-number it 150 199...

*gets coat*

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Maybe they'll re-number it 150 199...

*gets coat*

150666 would be more fitting

 

[Domh245]

Wiuld the incident have anything to do with the wheel skate it was using as photographed in the other thread on this unit's recent shenanigans?

 

[northwichcat]

Maybe the unit just wants to be retired to a nice heritage line after 30 years of mainline service?

 

[dgl]

Maybe the unit just wants to be retired to a nice heritage line after 30 years of mainline service?

It's obviously heard of the problems Swanage railway have had with their mainline DMU operations and thinks a quieter life in the south with people who not only would like a working DMU who will give it a bit more respect is preferable to it's current situation and is putting up a fuss.

 

[Churchill012]

Taken approx 1240. Allowing trains to pass but very slowly.

 

[railfan100]

The Class 150 was only designed for a 30 year working life and while unfortunate incidents will occur these units are in the main life expired. What makes it worse is questions concerning the Northern maintenance regime as covered in other threads.

 

[ToddS1]

Has 150 118 always been with Northern?

 

[Bletchleyite]

The Class 150 was only designed for a 30 year working life and while unfortunate incidents will occur these units are in the main life expired. What makes it worse is questions concerning the Northern maintenance regime as covered in other threads.

That would be more of a question. Wasn't it a seized axle box? Shouldn't that have been replaced/otherwise reconditioned in time for its maintenance schedule to prevent, as far as possible, one-off failures?

Yes, they are old trains, but to some extent they're like Grandma's old broom - bits get replaced when they actually wear out. You only get into scrapping when the body starts to lose structural integrity or repairs become uneconomic or considered unsafe. It's more like a house than a car - who knocks a house down because it's a bit old?

Mk1 DMUs were scrapped because they were considered unsafe (slam doors, underframes) and were corroding away, not because they were old per-se. And didn't the 101s get to 47 years old, if I recall?

 

[fgwrich]

Has 150 118 always been with Northern?

No. It's one of the ex Centro / Central Trains batch which moved up to Northern in 2010-2012. Formally 150018? with Central.

 

[northwichcat]

Yes, they are old trains, but to some extent they're like Grandma's old broom

Good at moving dirt and scaring off people?
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And didn't the 101s get to 47 years old, if I recall?

5 were withdrawn in 2003 and the oldest one of the 5 was just over 47 years old. There were 527 class 101 carriages built so plenty got withdrawn well before then and some had usable spare parts removed to keep the remainder going. The original plan was to withdraw the final batch in 2000 but the poor reliability of the new 175s meant that wasn't possible.

 

[RichmondCommu]

5 were withdrawn in 2003 and the oldest one of the 5 was just over 47 years old. There were 527 class 101 carriages built so plenty got withdrawn well before then and some had usable spare parts removed to keep the remainder going. The original plan was to withdraw the final batch in 2000 but the poor reliability of the new 175s meant that wasn't possible.

Didn't they finish up on the Hope Valley route?

 

[railfan100]

Yes, they are old trains, but to some extent they're like Grandma's old broom - bits get replaced when they actually wear out. You only get into scrapping when the body starts to lose structural integrity or repairs become uneconomic or considered unsafe. It's more like a house than a car - who knocks a house down because it's a bit old?

You may find it a surprise how much welding some of the Class 150\1 and 150\2 units have had done, some of the units have serious corrosion issues, it is really variable some units more than others. Also some of the Class 156 units have had a fair amount of what could be considered repairs to areas that are core to the integrity of the unit.

 

[G0ORC]

No. It's one of the ex Centro / Central Trains batch which moved up to Northern in 2010-2012. Formally 150018? with Central.

...and before that it was allocated from new to Etches Park in 1985 and went to Tyseley around 1991ish...

 

[northwichcat]

Didn't they finish up on the Hope Valley route?

The final 101 diagram was a Marple one but when there were a few they were used on various Piccadilly routes.

 

[mandub]

It was back on the rails this afternoon, but only briefly. Off again about 100 yds further down into the depot.