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Yamaha

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I'm wanting to go from the July 1st to July 7th (week) was wondering if anyone could help me on finding the cheapest traveling way... I don't have any rail card but I was finding prices like 180 quid and stuff... help please?
 
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Are you making a return journey travelling out on the 1st and back on the 7th, or are you looking for a season ticket?

Any preferred time of travel? There isn't a £180 return fare I can see so more details will be needed.
 

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Have you tried looking for Advance fares on Train Operating Company (TOC) websites, such as East Coast? These fares are normally significantly cheaper than walk-up fares.

Alternatively, if you want flexible tickets, you could buy one of the following:

£39.50 Newcastle - York Off-Peak Return
£41.60 York - Derby Off-Peak Return
Total: £81.10

You could travel on a direct CrossCountry train from Newcastle to Derby via York, Leeds/Doncaster and Sheffield. This takes around 2 hrs 30.

2 x £3.20 Anytime Day Single Newcastle - Sunderland
£17.50 Sunderland - York Anytime Return (Grand Central Only)
£23.00 York - Sheffield Anytime Return
£19.60 Sheffield - Derby Off-Peak Return
Total: £66.50
You could travel with Northern or the Tyne and Wear Metro to Sunderland, then with Grand Central to York (there are five services a day) and then on a CrossCountry train to Derby via Leeds/Doncaster and Sheffield. This is likely to take around 4 hours.
 
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Sorry for being more specific.

I want preferably to arrive before dinner time to get there and on the way back night time... I want just the cheapest possible way please. :D

Is it possible to get there return for around £40-50?

Yes go out on the 1st of July and come back on the 7th July.

Thanks.

I've tried Sunderland (I can just get a lift from Newcastle) to Derby, £34 each way... £68, trying to get cheaper.

Managed to get from Sunderland to Doncaster £18 and Doncaster to Derby £8 so that's £24 and back Derby to Doncaster £10.50 and Doncaster to Sunderland £20.50 to that's £31 so its £53, can anyone get any cheaper? Thanks!
 
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Are you happy to travel via Coach? Megabus are currently offering £8 single each way between Newcastle and Sheffield Meadowhall, then purchasing a Meadowhall to Derby Off Peak Return for £19.60 will bring the cost down to £35.60.

Outward :

0630 Newcastle, John Dobson Street - Sheffield Meadowhall Interchange 1005 £8.00
1028 Meadowhall Train Station - Sheffield arr 1037 dep 1047 arr Derby 1119

Return :

1656 Derby - Sheffield arr 1731 dep 1739 arr Meadowhall 1746
1830 Sheffield Meadowhall - Newcastle, John Dobson Street 2205 £8.00

For reference Meadowhall Train Station is next door to the Interchange bus stops.
 

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Are you happy to travel via Coach? Megabus are currently offering £8 single each way between Newcastle and Sheffield Meadowhall, then purchasing a Meadowhall to Derby Off Peak Return for £19.60 will bring the cost down to £35.60.

Outward :

0630 Newcastle, John Dobson Street - Sheffield Meadowhall Interchange 1005 £8.00
1028 Meadowhall Train Station - Sheffield arr 1037 dep 1047 arr Derby 1119

Return :

1656 Derby - Sheffield arr 1731 dep 1739 arr Meadowhall 1746
1830 Sheffield Meadowhall - Newcastle, John Dobson Street 2205 £8.00

For reference Meadowhall Train Station is next door to the Interchange bus stops.

Sorry that's a bit confusing, would that be £35.60 one way or return?

I would prefer to go by train to be honest, bus takes way too long!
 

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That would be £35.60 return.

I will consider it but its an awful lot of traveling by bus. :(

I would much prefer the train haha!

Does anyone know how much it would cost by car (petrol) roughly and how long? I need to get there that's for sure and don't want to spend a fortune that is all and might be able to ask a friend to give me a lift.
 

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Its not ideal in terms of journey duration or changes (and depends on your definition of dinner time), but this is cheaper.

1 July
16:25 Newcastle to Newark Northgate Arr 18:17 Advance £16.55
(Walk to Newark Castle approx 1 mile)
19:03 Newark Castle to Derby Arr 20:02 Anytime Day Sinle £8.30
(Changing in Nottingham)

7 July
19:40 Derby to Newark Castle Arr 21:02 Anytime Day Single £8.30
(Changing in Nottingham again, walk to Newark Northgate)
22:59 Newark Northgate to Newcastle Arr 02:11 Advance £10.50
(Changing in Doncaster)

Total: £43.65

(Advance availability as at 19:30 11/06/13, and using eastcoast.co.uk for their own advance discount)

Depends how important cost is ultimately!
 

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Its not ideal in terms of journey duration or changes (and depends on your definition of dinner time), but this is cheaper.

1 July
16:25 Newcastle to Newark Northgate Arr 18:17 Advance £16.55
(Walk to Newark Castle approx 1 mile)
19:03 Newark Castle to Derby Arr 20:02 Anytime Day Sinle £8.30
(Changing in Nottingham)

7 July
19:40 Derby to Newark Castle Arr 21:02 Anytime Day Single £8.30
(Changing in Nottingham again, walk to Newark Northgate)
22:59 Newark Northgate to Newcastle Arr 02:11 Advance £10.50
(Changing in Doncaster)

Total: £43.65

(Advance availability as at 19:30 11/06/13, and using eastcoast.co.uk for their own advance discount)

Depends how important cost is ultimately!

The return is fine, is there any earlier for going out to Derby (I want to be there before noon), thanks.

I just don't want to pay a lot if I can get cheaper. :p

Will going to Doncaster than changing be cheaper?
 

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The return is fine, is there any earlier for going out to Derby (I want to be there before noon), thanks.

I just don't want to pay a lot if I can get cheaper. :p

Will going to Doncaster than changing be cheaper?

That was the earliest train from Newcastle at anything like that price. You could do the Sunderland-Doncaster, Doncaster-Derby that you'd mentioned earlier for £24 for the outward - all the tickets are singles so theres no reason you have to return via the same route you went!
 

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That was the earliest train from Newcastle at anything like that price. You could do the Sunderland-Doncaster, Doncaster-Derby that you'd mentioned earlier for £24 for the outward - all the tickets are singles so theres no reason you have to return via the same route you went!

I've tried that way but on the way back the splitting is more expensive and the Doncaster to Sunderland is £20.50...

What are my options to go from Newcastle to Derby (apart from train and bus)?
 

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You previously said you wanted to arrive into Derby before 1200?

Oh sorry! I thought you meant when going back... I want to get there around noon time or before hand and I want to come back to the toon after tea time.
 

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Oh sorry! I thought you meant when going back... I want to get there around noon time or before hand and I want to come back to the toon after tea time.

How about:

Newcastle 09:35 - York 10:31 Advance £10
York 10:45 - Chesterfield 12:06 Advance £9.50
Chesterfield 12:06 - Derby 12:26 £3.50
(York to Derby is the same train)

Total outward £23
 

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How about:

Newcastle 09:35 - York 10:31 Advance £10
York 10:45 - Chesterfield 12:06 Advance £9.50
Chesterfield 12:06 - Derby 12:26 £3.50
(York to Derby is the same train)

Total outward £23

So will that be one way £23 and 2 changes? Newcastle > York > Chesterfield > Derby?

What do you mean York to Derby is the same train?

Sorry I am noob at trains... bare with me haha.
 

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So will that be one way £23 and 2 changes? Newcastle > York > Chesterfield > Derby?

What do you mean York to Derby is the same train?

Sorry I am noob at trains... bare with me haha.

You would buy two Advance tickets, one from York to Chesterfield and one from Chesterfield to Derby, but would stay on the same train from York to Derby which stops at Chesterfield.
 

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What site will I use to buy these?

Cheers so much, I knew I could get down compared to the £180 odd I've seen and that haha!
 

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What site will I use to buy these?

Cheers so much, I knew I could get down compared to the £180 odd I've seen and that haha!

You can buy all of them on www.eastcoast.co.uk. You don't need to pay separately, just keep adding all these tickets into the basket and pay in one go.

The £171 (which I think is what you mean) Anytime Return is a fully flexible ticket valid for one month in the return leg and valid on any train. Its flexibility means higher price.
 

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You can buy all of them on www.eastcoast.co.uk. You don't need to pay separately, just keep adding all these tickets into the basket and pay in one go.

The £171 (which I think is what you mean) Anytime Return is a fully flexible ticket valid for one month in the return leg and valid on any train. Its flexibility means higher price.

So it will be £46 altogether the way I've been advised?

Yeah I knew it was a different type of ticket but still a lot of money for such a short journey really!
 

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Assuming that the tickets suggested by IanXC in Posts 10 and 18 are still available (They are quota-controlled so only available in a limited number.), you are looking at £23 for the outward and £18.80 for the return journey.

Make sure you get in quick otherwise they might sell out.

Most people would not be buying the £171 ticket as for the majority of passengers, there would be something else more suitable.
 

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Unfortunately I've been told that I will not be leaving on the 7th but earlier, possibly the 3rd or 4th, will my best option be looking still for the 1st as cheap as I can get since it will always be cheaper going two singles than a return on this route?

Sorry for any inconvenience. Thanks.
 

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The options you've been given so far are mainly Booked Train only ie you can't change your day or times.

If you're not sure which day you'll return, then an Off-Peak return for £86.90 seems the best bet.

On 1st July (a monday) leave Newcastle Central at 09:35, arrive in derby at 11:50. Or any later train if preferred.

Your return can be any day, and any train/time on that day (except not before 09:30 am, but that isn't an issue for you).
 

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What's the maximum you would be looking at paying?

It's not that I don't have the money because I do but I just don't see the point in me paying xxx's amount when I can get it cheaper. :|

I was hoping for somewhere between 50-60 return. I'm finding out the return date in a few days, should I wait until then or should I buy my single(s) for going down there first?

If you're not sure which day you'll return, then an Off-Peak return for £86.90 seems the best bet.

Which site are you using to get the £86.90, I've been reading 80 odd quid single there and 40 odd quid back and the returns are like 180 odd quid? From the thetrainline.
 
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Which site are you using to get the £86.90, I've been reading 80 odd quid single there and 40 odd quid back and the returns are like 180 odd quid? From the thetrainline.

The £86.90 fare is the Off-Peak Return, and is valid on any train after 0930 on weekdays (no restriction at weekends). The £171 fare is the Anytime Return valid on any train.
 
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