New Traction and Euro emissions

[greysleuth]

Learned contributors,
As I understand it new regulations relating to loco exhaust emissions come into effect on 1/1/15.
The current build Class 66s do not meet these regulations therefore only new class 66 locos delivered before 31/12/14 are acceptable on U.K. railways.
The present build rate for Class 66 locos will allow up to 14 to be completed in that time frame. 8 of these are on order for GBRF for delivery August 2014, leaving a theoretical 6 more construction slots available. Any suggestions as to who might take up these ?
If the regulations have a similar impact on Class 70s the current construction rate could allow up to 21 locos to be completed. 9 are on order for Colas 70/8. These are I understand unexcercised options from the Freightliner order ( i.e. 70-021 to 70-030 n.t.u.) So that could leave 12 or 13 available. 12 new build plus the one outstanding freightliner option ( from 2013 construction ?) If the Class 70 is compliant after 1/1/2015 then the next question is irrelevant. If it is not then any suggestions as to who might take up these?
The Vossloh Class 68 is I believe fully compliant and therefore there are no time constraints on future orders. Any rumours out there? Arriva ? Must be cheaper to run than a Class 67.
Your time trouble and thoughts much appreciated.
Be lucky
EDavid

 

[Beveridges]

I wonder how the 68 is fully compliant when there were far more visible emissions in the video I saw of one on test, than a 66

 

[starrymarkb]

Depends on what it's emmiting!

 

[Photohunter71]

I think it's in relation to emissions particles per million over a constant use,the 66's must be emitting more than the latest engines.Also I believe fuel consumption rates of engines play a part in the regulations.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Summary of Euro emissions regs and the corresponding levels here:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/eu/nonroad.php
(railroad engines at the bottom)
They cover CO, HC, NOx and PM (carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, nitrogen oxides and particulate matter), so it's not just what you can see. Also a limit for ammonia.
Not sure if all that info is up to date, as they don't list any change in 2014 for railroad applications.

Also, the key word in post 2 above is "test"! There's a test regime covering cold and hot starts, with the results worked out from there.

 

[greysleuth]

Could somebody please confirm if or not the Class 70's meet the incoming regulations.
Many thanks for your time and trouble,
Be lucky
David

 

[jopsuk]

GE states (and the page may be a little out of date) that "future" options include Euro IIIb compliance- so any new 70s will be compliant. They also confidently assert that they can modify and adapt as and when future tighter regulations are devised and implemented.

Do remember that the emissions standards will be developed in conjunction with major manufacturers. They're not solely dreamt up by bureaucrats with no real world knowledge.