New Station Fund: Haxby (York)

[crispy1978]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21519170

New Haxby train station funding bid

A new train station is to be built in Haxby, North Yorkshire, if a bid for a share of £20m from Network Rail is successful, said City of York Council.

The council is to bid for about £6m from the fund for a £7.5m station for more than 22,000 residents in the area 5 miles (8km) north of York.

Councillor Dave Merrett said a new station had been an ambition of "successive councils over 20 years".

If the bid is successful construction could start in 2015.

The money would come from a national fund to help towards the cost of building new stations.

The plan is for a new station on the Scarborough to York line south of the existing level crossing on Station Road, according to the council.

Campaigner David Wells, of Railfuture Yorkshire, said: "Connecting directly into York gives access to pretty much anywhere in the country."

A previous station in Haxby closed more than 80 years ago.

Assume that would be an additional stop on the Scarborough-York line?

 

[bradders1983]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-21519170

Assume that would be an additional stop on the Scarborough-York line?

Well thats what the article says, Crispy. Stick to your darts

(you may realise who this is in a short while!!)

 

[charlee]

Good news. When the fund was initially announced, haxby was widely predicted to bid

 

[crispy1978]

Well thats what the article says, Crispy. Stick to your darts

(you may realise who this is in a short while!!)

Ahhhh shurrup!!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Haxby, situated five miles north of York, had a population of 8,754 in the 2001 census, but the press release quoted now gives a population of 22,000. There is a large car-owning population in that area from what I have been informed by the City of York council.

The railway station at Haxby was closed in 1930 as it could not compete with the bus services, as was the case with many railway stations in that decade. The North Eastern Railway ran both railbuses and railcars on that line prior to closure.

Haxby is currently served by the following bus services:-
Service 1
Chapelfields-York-Wigginton...every 10 minutes during the daytime
(Wigginton has a park-and-ride facility)
Service 13
Haxby-York-Copmanthorpe...every hour during the daytime
Service 20
Acomb-York-University...every hour during the daytime
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

Assume that would be an additional stop on the Scarborough-York line?

For someone who has Scarborough as his forum stated location, that seems to be a very strange question to ask, as I assume that you will be well aware of the areas that the Scarborough to York services passes through.

 

[crispy1978]

For someone who has Scarborough as his forum stated location, that seems to be a very strange question to ask, as I assume that you will be well aware of the areas that the Scarborough to York services passes through.

I am horrendous at the locations in and around York! It's not a location I travel short of going in to the station one way, and out the other. I know the names of the locations, but couldn't tell you where they are around the city. I don't know my Acomb from my Poppleton!

 

[IanXC]

Haxby, situated five miles north of York, had a population of 8,754 in the 2001 census, but the press release quoted now gives a population of 22,000. There is a large car-owning population in that area from what I have been informed by York city council.

I suspect when the Council say "for more than 22,000 residents in the area" they are taking Haxby, Wigginton, Strensall and maybe New Earswick too.

Haxby is currently served by the following bus services:-
Service 1
Chapelfields-York-Wigginton...every 10 minutes during the daytime
(Wigginton has a park-and-ride facility)

Although Wigginton is not one of the York's designated Park and Ride sites and services.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I suspect when the Council say "for more than 22,000 residents in the area" they are taking Haxby, Wigginton, Strensall and maybe New Earswick too.

Indeed so, as I was somewhat surprised by that publically stated figure.

 

[bradders1983]

Ahhhh shurrup!!

Haha

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Although Wigginton is not one of the York's designated Park and Ride sites and services.

Whilst it does not fall into that specific official category, nonetheless there was a Park and Ride site at Wigginton the last time we took to "scenic" route to York via Harrogate.

I note the position with the York designated Park and Ride sites at both Poppleton and at Askham Bar, but can you let me know whatever happened to the application for the site at Clifton Moor.

 

[IanXC]

I note the position with the York designated Park and Ride sites at both Poppleton and at Askham Bar, but can you let me know whatever happened to the application for the site at Clifton Moor.

Clifton Moor was declined for central government funding. I suspect in due course a section 106 agreement will be used to progress the project, next time a suitable development comes along.

 

[Searle]

Service 20
Acomb-York-University...every hour during the daytime

Unless you're not referring to the route numbers, there's not a 20 bus that serves the university. The 4 goes to Acomb from the Uni though, run by First, or the 44 which only serves the railway station, run by Unibus

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Unless you're not referring to the route numbers, there's not a 20 bus that serves the university. The 4 goes to Acomb from the Uni though, run by First, or the 44 which only serves the railway station, run by Unibus

My information that I downloaded from the "Bus services in York" site shows the main stops on the number 20 services as:-
Acomb, Front Street
Beckfield Lane, Green Tree
Upper Poppleton, Railway Station
Rawcliffe, The Mitre
Clifton, Green Lane
Kettlestring Lane
Clifton Moor, Tesco
Wigginton, Mill Lane
Haxby, Ryedale Court
Oak Tree Lane
New Earswick, Shops
Huntington school
Monks Cross, Shopping Centre
New Lane
Woodlands Grove
Heworth Church, Melrosegate
Tang Hall, Alcuin Avenue
Osbaldwick, St Thomas' Church
University, Heslington East Interchange
University, Heslington Hall

 

[balne-wonderer]

Haxby, situated five miles north of York, had a population of 8,754 in the 2001 census, but the press release quoted now gives a population of 22,000. There is a large car-owning population in that area from what I have been informed by York city council.
The railway station at Haxby was closed in 1930 as it could not compete with the bus services, as was the case with many railway stations in that decade. The North Eastern Railway ran both railbuses and railcars on that line prior to closure.

Haxby is currently served by the following bus services:-
Service 1
Chapelfields-York-Wigginton...every 10 minutes during the daytime
(Wigginton has a park-and-ride facility)
Service 13
Haxby-York-Copmanthorpe...every hour during the daytime
Service 20
Acomb-York-University...every hour during the daytime
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---


For someone who has Scarborough as his forum stated location, that seems to be a very strange question to ask, as I assume that you will be well aware of the areas that the Scarborough to York services passes through.

City of York Council

I've spent plenty of time at the Eco-Depot on James Street for CYC and this was a hot topic.

There is alot of investment going on in the transport in York. The company I work for undertook a big scheme at Grimston Bar park and ride off Hull Road.

Wouldn't surprise if this came off.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

City of York Council

I would beg your forebearance for this faux pas and I have amended my posting accordingly. Grateful thanks.

 

[Eccles]

The application has gone in...

Haxby Station Funding Bid

The Council is bidding for funds from the Network Rail's New Station Fund to develop a new train station at Haxby, to the north of York.

A business case was submitted to Network Rail on 25 February 2013 for funding to help towards the cost of building a new station.

A station at Haxby would provide access to the rail network for over 23,000 residents within a three km radius of the station and create faster links for commuters to York, Leeds, Manchester and beyond.

The plans are to build a station approx. 200m south of the existing level crossing on Station Road with a small car park and station building. If successful, construction of the new station could start as soon as 2014 and will provide access to the TransPennine service to York, Scarborough, Leeds and Manchester. It is anticipated that the results of the competition will be announced in March 2013. If the bid is successful, detailed consultation will be undertaken with local residents as part of the further development of the scheme and in support of the planning application process.

http://www.york.gov.uk/info/200218/trains/700/haxby_station_funding_bid

PDF of the proposed layout here: http://www.york.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/6483/proposed_haxby_new_station_drawing
and application form here: http://www.york.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/6484/new_haxby_station_fund_application_form

One interesting bit re. the platform lengths in the application: "The platform lengths are based on 4 No Class 185 cars at 23.5m". Wonder if that's because this has been around so long that it was written when 185s were still going to be 4-car, and they've just left it...?

Should be good if this comes off; apparently a decision is expected by the end of March.

 

[telstarbox]

Could just be future proofing to avoid having to extend the platforms later on.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

PDF of the proposed layout here: http://www.york.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/6483/proposed_haxby_new_station_drawing
and application form here: http://www.york.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/6484/new_haxby_station_fund_application_form

Should be good if this comes off; apparently a decision is expected by the end of March.

I note that Network Rail state that the council will provide a figure of 30% of the construction costs. How long will this project have been in their forward budgetry forecasts ?

I note that on the Arap general arrangement drawing, the level crossing is clearly shown and I wonder if any upgrading of the curent situation will be deemed necessary with the site of the new station being quite near to this.

 

[Eccles]

I was wondering if the platform length might be to match Seamer - but that seems to be about 5-car length... (120m/125m) A bit of future-proofing does make sense.

The only thing I've heard about for both crossings is a bit of tweaking for the 'down' time. They do seem to be down for a good while before a train arrives;
The York Road one can cause queues back up to (and onto) the A1237 roundabout in evening peak.

Both crossings are full-barrier, CCTV monitored, and I *think* the protecting signals for both are between the proposed platform locations and the crossing - would a 'ready to start' button to operate the crossings be allowed, or are the platforms close enough that the barriers would need to be down while the train is sat at the platform?

No idea on the budgets - but this has been talked about for at least the 20-odd years I've lived in Haxby, I'd be surprised if there wasn't something in there somewhere.

 

[JohnCarlson]

The trains to Scarborough are pretty full already. I wonder how they will cope.

 

[YorkshireBear]

The trains to Scarborough are pretty full already. I wonder how they will cope.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Scarborough - York shuttle run by Northern to be introduced post electrification. In addition to whatever is decided for the current TPE service.

 

[billio]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Scarborough - York shuttle run by Northern to be introduced post electrification. In addition to whatever is decided for the current TPE service.

If there was to be an additional stopping service, then a station at Strensall and possible one at Sherburn would also make sense, the latter one being an attempt to get motorists from East Yorkshire to "park and ride" into York and beyond.

I think there is very little money to do that though.

 

[Ploughman]

If there was to be an additional stopping service, then a station at Strensall and possible one at Sherburn would also make sense, the latter one being an attempt to get motorists from East Yorkshire to "park and ride" into York and beyond.

I think there is very little money to do that though.

Do you mean "Weaverthorpe"?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

If there was to be an additional stopping service, then a station at Strensall and possible one at Sherburn would also make sense, the latter one being an attempt to get motorists from East Yorkshire to "park and ride" into York and beyond.

The railway stations that served Strensall and the one at Weaverthorpe (that served Sherburn) were both closed 83 years ago in 1930.

The only station called "Sherburn" that I recall is that of Sherburn-in-Elmet railway station.

 

[Eccles]

Stockton (on the Forest) maybe?

Although that was on the Beverley line, rather than the Scarborough line. Where that crossed the A64 would have been the perfect place for a York NE P&R; would probably have caught a lot of Leeds-bound commuters as well, given a decent service...

Nothing like a bit of daydreaming!

 

[Ploughman]

There was a suggestion made that rather than stopping the existing Scarborough services.
A new service was created or an old one extended through York Station calling at Haxby and by use of the crossover at Strensall use that as the turn round point.
Maybe the start point for the Leeds all stations stopping services.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Stockton (on the Forest) maybe? Although that was on the Beverley line, rather than the Scarborough line. Where that crossed the A64 would have been the perfect place for a York NE P&R; would probably have caught a lot of Leeds-bound commuters as well, given a decent service...

I think the station that you refer to as Stockton on the Forest is in fact the long-closed railway station of Warthill....The Sand Hutton Light Railway also had its terminus in that settlement.

 

[billio]

The railway stations that served Strensall and the one at Weaverthorpe (that served Sherburn) were both closed 83 years ago in 1930.

The only station called "Sherburn" that I recall is that of Sherburn-in-Elmet railway station.

Why was it called Weaverthorpe ?. From Weaverthorpe you have to pass through Sherburn to get to the station. If one opened a station there today it would be called Sherburn.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Why was it called Weaverthorpe ?. From Weaverthorpe you have to pass through Sherburn to get to the station. If one opened a station there today it would be called Sherburn.

To answer your query, I don my historical pedant hat and reply...

This station was originally opened by the York and North Midland Railway on 5th July 1845 as Sherburn station.

On 1st April 1874, it was re-named Wykeham to avoid confusion with three other railway stations on the railways also named Sherburn.

The name was changed again on 1st May 1882 after the opening of a station called Wykeham on the Forge Valley Line, when this station was given its final name of Weaverthorpe.

The railway station was closed on 22nd September 1930.

 

[Ploughman]

Having worked in the area on the railway a number of times. It is always referred to as Weaverthorpe even though it is actually at the bottom end of Sherburn village.
However it has caused a number of occasions of "Lost staff" especially when bodies are imported from out of the area and they relied on Sat Nav or in an age of not so long ago a Paper Map. It was quite common to find railway vans roaming the streets of Weaverthorpe village 2 valleys to the South.