New security scanners

[Seehof]

Is there a list anywhere that is kept up to date as to which airports here and in Europe have the new airport hand luggage scanners? I believe LCY does and I think NCL is on track to have all their new scanners soon. I can’t wait to take some bottles of Yorkshire Dales brewery beer to my friend abroad!

 

[DanNCL]

NCL has been using the new scanners since at least Feb. North Security at LHR T5 had a mix of old and new scanners in Feb, at the time the new ones were used for transit passengers and the old ones for those starting their journey at Heathrow.

VIE was entirely old scanners in Feb.

 

[Watershed]

At LHR, the T5 First Wing and T3 Fast Track have both transitioned over to the new scanners recently. Elsewhere, the rollout is still underway.

 

[Bigfoot]

At LHR, the T5 First Wing and T3 Fast Track have both transitioned over to the new scanners recently. Elsewhere, the rollout is still underway.

Used T3 fast track a couple of weeks ago, so quick, almost like being back in the 1990s except for the body scan

 

[Seehof]

So what happens? Do you still put a bag through the scanner and then walk through or do you just walk through carrying everything?

 

[DanNCL]

So what happens? Do you still put a bag through the scanner and then walk through or do you just walk through carrying everything?

Still put the bag through the scanner. But you no longer have to take out electricals or put liquids in a clear bag. Just leave everything in the bag and put it on the tray.

 

[Seehof]

Thank you. What about coats and trouser belts?

 

[DanNCL]

Thank you. What about coats and trouser belts?

Still have to take both of them off as well as empty trouser pockets. But I think you can leave items in your coat pockets now.

 

[Bigfoot]

Still have to take both of them off as well as empty trouser pockets. But I think you can leave items in your coat pockets now.

Belt off, pockets emptied into bag or coat pockets, coat off but bags and everything into a tray and straight into the scanner. Nothing needs to be taken out. By the time I'd posed in the scanner my tray was waiting for me to collect and leave.

 

[185143]

Copenhagen T2 still use the old scanners.

 

[Fred43123]

MXP and FCO have the new scanners

 

[Watershed]

MXP and FCO have the new scanners

For MXP that may be the case at T1. However, over at T2 (used by easyJet), there's only one lane with the new scanners. It looks to be primarily intended for Fast Track passengers, although I was directed through there as an 'overflow' lane from the regular queue recently.

 

[Fred43123]

For MXP that may be the case at T1. However, over at T2 (used by easyJet), there's only one lane with the new scanners. It looks to be primarily intended for Fast Track passengers, although I was directed through there as an 'overflow' lane from the regular queue recently.

Was not sure about T2 but T1 definitely has the new Smiths Detection scanners

 

[WestCoast]

In terms of UK regional airports, both Aberdeen and Teesside have completed the roll out and now scan all bags using the new scanners.

 

[westv]

When we went through Leeds Bradford in April there were signs about the new scanners "coming this spring"

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Still put the bag through the scanner. But you no longer have to take out electricals or put liquids in a clear bag. Just leave everything in the bag and put it on the tray.

So less risk of theft of loose items then - even if that was only ever very low risk?

 

[Blindtraveler]

Luton was about 50% done a month ago with my first trip through one of the new scanners being taken
From my point of view, it was a real levelling of the playing field experience as being blind and having had one's white stick removed for security scanning which is just the most preposterous thing ever. But I can understand it. I was rarely if ever able to walk through the arch in a straight line so had a much much higher than average proportion of pat downs and indeed some security operators at some airports offered me the option of just going straight for that option rather than passing through the hoop

Now I just stand there and it's done with the minimal of fuss and bother. And as for being able to take liquids of regular size again, I am so happy. It's really rather sad

There are apparently now a couple at Edinburgh but suspect they are probably reserved for fast track or business or whatever customers
Once everywhere has gone live, I can see the amount of time required for security across the airport network. Reducing to levels experienced in the mid-2000s which as a fairly frequent flyer, is a good news story

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I suspect that Manchester T2 will have the new scanners soon but T1 (eg easyJet) won't as the intention is to close T1 in 2025 and move its flights to the expanded T2.
Would be delighted to be proved wrong...
I always seem to get the wrong side of the system at T1.

 

[Spamcan81]

Flew out of Stansted four weeks ago and they had the new scanners.

 

[D1024]

Dublin T2 has the new scanners

 

[Mojo]

Ministers have ordered an astonishing emergency U-turn on airport security following concerns about new equipment that allows passengers to keep liquids in their hand luggage.

Airports with the new scanners have been ordered to reimpose old rules from midnight on Saturday, meaning that travellers will be limited to carrying 100ml containers.

The Independent understands that a range of concerns have been raised about the new equipment, which is also in use at overseas airports such as Schiphol in Amsterdam and Shannon in Ireland.

While security has never been compromised, a number of airports using the new scanners have experienced long queues due to a higher-than-expected rejection rate, as security officers carry out hand searches.

The government has told airports with “next generation security checkpoints” – which were supposed to end the hassle of placing toiletries in clear plastic bags for separate screening – to revert to the old rules on liquids, aerosols and gels.

It said only passengers travelling from London City, Newcastle, Leeds Bradford, Aberdeen, Southend, and Teesside airports would be affected.

However, London Luton has the new equipment in operation, as do some parts of Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester and Stansted. The Independent has asked for clarification.

Full article at - https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...rt-liquids-rules-scanners-100ml-b2558866.html

 

[HSTEd]

Looks like someone is panicking.

 

[Blindtraveler]

Hugely angry about this. I hope it's only temporary

 

[westv]

I wonder what the issue is and why it's only just come to light?

 

[Watershed]

Utterly incompetent, as one would expect from the DfT. If there's a genuine security issue, they should say so rather than making a mealy-mouthed announcement.

If it's due to concerns about "passenger confusion" because of different standards at different airports, sigh. Collective punishment comes to mind...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Various news reports have suggested it's purely a paperwork issue related to the authorisation to use the things...

I'd like to know how a screw up of that magnitude happened, if that is true!

 

[island]

Some reports suggest implementation issues at BHX – which was testing the new scanners but had not yet formally abolished the 100ml rule – and that threat items were getting through unidentified by the scan operators.

 

[AlterEgo]

Some reports suggest implementation issues at BHX – which was testing the new scanners but had not yet formally abolished the 100ml rule – and that threat items were getting through unidentified by the scan operators.

I have heard this through the grapevine too.

 

[westv]

Some reports suggest implementation issues at BHX – which was testing the new scanners but had not yet formally abolished the 100ml rule – and that threat items were getting through unidentified by the scan operators.

I guess they haven't really had much time for training - only several years!