New Rolling Stock

[F Great Eastern]

I know the new rolling stock is coming but does anyone have pictures of the interiors of what this will be like.

The problems I have with most of the newer stuff in the last 15 years on the Underground is that it's very low in height apart from bang in the centre, I'm 6ft5 and I have to stand right in the middle else I have to duck. I feel VERY claustrophobic in these and am hoping the new will be better, I don't get this feeling wiuth any of the circle line for example/

 

[Uranquinty]

I've seen a couple of pictures of the 09TS lurking around on Flickr; to be honest there looks like slightly less headroom, due to the additional cooling equipment in the roof.

Interior views also show really tiny windows, so your claustrophobia is going to be compounded.

 

[Mojo]

The problems I have with most of the newer stuff in the last 15 years on the Underground is that it's very low in height apart from bang in the centre, I'm 6ft5 and I have to stand right in the middle else I have to duck. I feel VERY claustrophobic in these and am hoping the new will be better, I don't get this feeling wiuth any of the circle line for example/

That's very little to do with the trains, but more to do with the type of line. The Circle line (along with Met, Hammersmith/City, District and formerly the East London line) is a Sub-Surface line which was built differently and tend to be much closer to the surface. The other lines are the 'Tube' lines which were built differently and tend to be deeper underground. The tunnels are larger on the Sub-Surface lines and as a result larger trains can be run.

You can see the difference here quite clearly. The different types of tunnels: 'Tube' and Sub-Surface.

 

[F Great Eastern]

That's very little to do with the trains, but more to do with the type of line. The Circle line (along with Met, Hammersmith/City, District and formerly the East London line) is a Sub-Surface line which was built differently and tend to be much closer to the surface. The other lines are the 'Tube' lines which were built differently and tend to be deeper underground. The tunnels are larger on the Sub-Surface lines and as a result larger trains can be run.

You can see the difference here quite clearly. The different types of tunnels: 'Tube' and Sub-Surface.

I thought that may be the case but was not sure, it's just dreadful to get on one of them and have to stand right in the middle, and even when you do you feel you cannot move left or right has to be right in the middle and even there it's very uncomfortable and feels very closed in with nowhere to move!

 

[subway156]

This is all over the place.

 

[subway156]

Here's a few pix I've found here and there.

 

[jon0844]

When I went to the public showing of the new sub-surface trains at Euston, we all quickly concluded that the emergency alarms near the wheelchair seating would be getting pressed all the time by children.

I wonder how they're going to resolve that on the final production units.

 

[Skie]

That happens quite a lot on the refurbed 507/8's running on Merseyrail.

Someone sticks a pram into the disabled space to get it out of the way, and the kid inside can see the huge red inviting button just inches away....

 

[DavyCrocket]

When I went to the public showing of the new sub-surface trains at Euston, we all quickly concluded that the emergency alarms near the wheelchair seating would be getting pressed all the time by children.

I wonder how they're going to resolve that on the final production units.

They will have covers on. They have to be specially designed so that those that can't lift things due to problems with their hands can do so to use the Alarm.

There are similar issues with the location of the Alarm on D Stocks where there is a low down one in the wheelchair area. Again, with children wanting to pull a big red handle (though that is the same for children being carried and the higher up ones!). It's also pulled by visually impaired people thinking that it is a handrail!

 

[subway156]

In the States, I think the prevailing attitude would be to not allow passenegrs any control of anything at all. They would want service interrupted by anyone who wasn't system staff because they have enough to contend with. Another thing, here is a story that was in the New York Daily News this past week. There are gate style exits that physically challenged persons use who are on their safety equipment, rather than pushing through a turnstyle. These have alarms on them which are activeated and de-activated by station employees on an as-needed basis. If they are not turned on, and one person goes IN through it for a free ride, then many more follow until the attendant notices this and activates it. There is also a big story in NY that a woman was being raped and screaming while an attendant, locked inside their cubicle, didn't help in any way! Talk about being on the Pay-No-Mind-List. This is not to say all MTA employees are of this caliber. It was this particular incident that was exposed throught the media.