Sorry I meant the Moto G6+, in hindsight I didn't make that too clear!
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cactustwirly
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You might want to give OnePlus a shot, they are very good value.
And their Android is very much stock (with some extra settings added)
However they are only available as unlocked & no SIM, or a contract through O2.
I got the former with a SIM only contract.
And their Android is very much stock (with some extra settings added)
However they are only available as unlocked & no SIM, or a contract through O2.
I got the former with a SIM only contract.
The OnePlus 6 is really nice. Went to the launch last week and it's a lot of bang for the buck. However it's over £400, which is a bargain for the spec but still quite expensive.
The Honor 10 is £399 and has an amazing camera.
Bletchleyite
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Has a pointless glass back, though (no wireless charging which would be a justification). I quite like the traditional style of the Google Pixel phones - a more robust plastic back and a bezel to protect the screen if dropped.
Fancy coloured glass is all the rage. Carl Pei said it's as strong as the other OnePlus models, but didn't demonstrate and I wasn't about to with the one I tried!
Bletchleyite
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I do find it intriguing the way the market has developed such that a mobile phone or tablet is mostly not fit for purpose unless you add a third party case.
EM2
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So I've found the Nokia 6, which is perfect for my needs, and is on a good upgrade deal at Carphone Warehouse. Now they are part of Dixons, a company that I would normally boycott because of real issues with PC World in the past.
But...if the handset is free, and the line rental etc. is paid to EE, how much of my money would CW actually get?
But...if the handset is free, and the line rental etc. is paid to EE, how much of my money would CW actually get?
DarloRich
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I have noticed Huawei have started a heavy advertising campaign to win some UK market share. The new one does look a good phone but as I said the deal/package wasn't there at the time. Maybe my next phone will be Chinese!
People obviously buy them. Even if they case them, it's that feeling in the hand in a phone store that makes them buy.
I would love to see more rugged phones built that have all the specs of flagship models, but don't need a case. As such, they can be thinner than a glass phone with an outer shell added.
Manufacturers to their credit have tried, with Samsung producing an Active version of the flagship Galaxy models, but I assume they don't sell well. That goes back to my first paragraph - the public are buying the glass phones and are also happy to buy ever thinner phones that can bend and break, as well as having worse battery life than could otherwise be the case.
Back to Huawei, besides having a 4,000mAh battery (but still glass - urgh!) the marketing must be working as I've had two people ask me 'is that that the P20 Pro' (I assume they see the shiny back, or the third camera sensor) and in both cases it turned out it was because one had bought the regular P20 and loved it, and another was asking what I thought because their mum had recently bought one.
So people are giving them a go and I think they'll be quite pleased as there's a real bonus in having a phone that doesn't need charging all the time (and when it does, can be charged extremely rapidly).
I read this thread whilst it was active earlier in the year. I subsequently purchased a Motorola 6 Plus. I pay £15 per month for 1G and I find it suits my needs very well. Thanks for all the comments, having previously held a Nokia Lumia 710 operating on windows 7, this is a significant step upgrade.
I am enjoying finding new things to use, although if I understood it more I am sure I could utilise it more.
I am enjoying finding new things to use, although if I understood it more I am sure I could utilise it more.
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My previous phone for daily use was a OnePlus 3T and I am really pleased with that. It packs a punch for a reasonable price.
Nowadays I use a Samsung Galaxy S8 (issued by my employer), and while I was skeptical about it at first I've grown to really like the device. There's little bloatware on it and overall I've grown to like the Samsung skin and feature set.
Nowadays I use a Samsung Galaxy S8 (issued by my employer), and while I was skeptical about it at first I've grown to really like the device. There's little bloatware on it and overall I've grown to like the Samsung skin and feature set.
I used to have the OnePlus 3 however ended up having to upgrade due to some bug that appeared on the 3 whereby it would come up with Dirac Control Service having stopped and essentially melted the phone making it do a system reset.
I could not figure for the life of me how to solve it and obviously it rendered my phone essentially useless and it would keep doing this and sending it into a hard reset meaning not.
In the end I stuck with OnePlus and am currently on the 5T which I still remain impressed with.
(I did eventually work out how to solve the bug, which involved joining the beta program for the OnePlus 3 which amazingly solved the issue, so it is simply there as a backup.
In terms of the next phone there has been a couple of releases that I have been keeping my eye on, the OnePlus 6T being one of the main but I am starting to look a bit more afield with Xiaomi for my next one for instance.
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One of the things which holds me back from buying OnePlus again is the lack of wireless charging (Qi). Now that Samsung have adopted wireless charging and even Apple have it in their latest iPhones, there's no reason why OnePlus phones shouldn't have it.
My first phone to feature Qi was the Google Nexus 5, and I liked it. When it was time to say goodbye to the N5, the OP3T was about to hit the shelves and I switched to that. Great phone, but I really missed Qi. The Galaxy S8 does have wireless charging, and I almost exclusively use that. The only time when my phone is plugged in nowadays is to use it in my car with Android Auto.
According to OnePlus they don't like wireless charging as it isn't fast (their Dash Charging is quick, I must give them that), but I don't feel that should be an issue. Wireless charging is convenient for when you've got the time - for example overnight, or when you're sitting at a desk. You don't need rapid charging in such cases, when you do you can always just plug in your phone.
My first phone to feature Qi was the Google Nexus 5, and I liked it. When it was time to say goodbye to the N5, the OP3T was about to hit the shelves and I switched to that. Great phone, but I really missed Qi. The Galaxy S8 does have wireless charging, and I almost exclusively use that. The only time when my phone is plugged in nowadays is to use it in my car with Android Auto.
According to OnePlus they don't like wireless charging as it isn't fast (their Dash Charging is quick, I must give them that), but I don't feel that should be an issue. Wireless charging is convenient for when you've got the time - for example overnight, or when you're sitting at a desk. You don't need rapid charging in such cases, when you do you can always just plug in your phone.
Bletchleyite
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Personally I don't find plugging in at a desk or overnight to be any kind of effort. Wireless charging is a great idea, but I don't find myself missing it by not having it. It also has downsides such as the need for a glass or plastic instead of metal back on the phone, so it is less robust.
The OnePlus 6T is announced tomorrow and Xiaomi launches in the UK on November 8th with some impressive new kit.
EM2
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Personally, I don't see the point in wireless charging. If it's charging, I can't use it.
It's very convenient if, for example, you've got a charging pad at your desk. Come into the office, drop the phone on the charge pad - if you need to get up from your desk you can just grab the phone without having to unplug the cable. Phone is fully charged when you leave at the end of the day.
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Exactly. It's just a convenience thing.
The reason why OnePlus have not implemented it is because they don't see it as fast enough in it's current format to warrant the implementation of it.
For instance it is much slower to charge it via Wireless Charging than it would be to charge it via the Dash Charger.
However I can see this changing as Wireless charging technology improves and should hopefully become faster.
Sam
Cheers for that.
Sam
The Huawei Mate 20 Pro has wireless charging with 15W support on the latest wireless pads. Pretty good, but the phone itself comes with a 40W mains charger - which charges to 70% in 30 minutes. So it's not THAT good. However, having options IS good and I can top up during the day wirelessly or give the phone a major boost the 'old fashioned way'.
I am not sure but think Huawei's latest 40W charger now beats the fast charger from OnePlus, but they're all pretty fast these days.
The Mate 20 Pro is also the first phone to reverse charge wirelessly (it could already do so via USB-C to charge other devices). Flip over and put another phone on, and you'll charge that! That's quite clever if you have another device (they wound up Apple users by showing it charging the iPhone X, but it could just as easily be wireless earphones or another phone/tablet you own).
I do agree you could live without wireless charging and after having a number of devices early on (from HP, Palm, Motorola and others) and accumulating various wireless chargers (a mere 5W back then), I had a long spell with no phone that supported it. I didn't really miss it, but am quite glad that I can now dig them out and re-use them.
Bletchleyite
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The USB3 socket is more robust, and the Apple Lightning socket doesn't suffer that issue in the first place.
TBH I do see it as rather a solution looking for a problem, a little bit like wireless earphones which make sense when at home listening to a fixed hi-fi system and wanting to move about the lounge (if you prefer listening via headphones or others don't want to listen), but are just another thing to charge when you are out and about.
The Huawei Mate 20 Pro is something I have looked at however it is slightly out of my price range for a phone, it certainly appears to be a relatively bold strategy by Huawei in terms of the pricing of their product.
Of course OnePlus are working on their "Warp Charge"
Sam
The thing I hated about Bluetooth headphones/earphones was that I always forgot to charge them. I was a very early adopter thanks to being given them to review, and that was always the biggest 'problem'.
Now you have modern earbuds that charge from the carry case, and so you are less likely to forget - at least until the battery in the case runs out!
Being able to charge your headphones from the phone itself in the case of the Mate 20 Pro is quite clever. Remember to charge your phone and that's it. And if you have a wireless pad at home, you can charge the phone or the accessory that way.
I actually hope that someone comes up with the idea, if not already done, to make a portable battery pack that has Qi support so you can keep the battery pack charged up by simply putting it down on your desk. And you could also use that to wirelessly charge a phone if you wanted added convenience at the cost of speed.
Choices are good. Nobody is forced to adopt wireless charging and buy into it.
Now you have modern earbuds that charge from the carry case, and so you are less likely to forget - at least until the battery in the case runs out!
Being able to charge your headphones from the phone itself in the case of the Mate 20 Pro is quite clever. Remember to charge your phone and that's it. And if you have a wireless pad at home, you can charge the phone or the accessory that way.
I actually hope that someone comes up with the idea, if not already done, to make a portable battery pack that has Qi support so you can keep the battery pack charged up by simply putting it down on your desk. And you could also use that to wirelessly charge a phone if you wanted added convenience at the cost of speed.
Choices are good. Nobody is forced to adopt wireless charging and buy into it.
Is Warp Charge really something new, or just a consequence of being sued for the old name? I think OnePlus had to change the name, so I am not 100% sure it's anything more than this? The current tech is already really impressive, given the charging tech is in the charger not the phone - so it can rapid charge without generating as much heat.
It would appear that you are right, apologies.
It would seem that a few websites as well as me having got a bit carried away and think that the name "Warp Charge" is something more than simply a re-brand of a name.
The good news in terms of the OnePlus 6T is that they are keeping the price relatively the same in comparison to the 6, only about £20 dearer if I remember.
This should hopefully keep them competitive against the likes of the new Pocophone for instance.
Sam
Bletchleyite
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That looks like a decent piece of kit[1] - but what a ridiculous sounding name.
[1] Notwithstanding that they are yet another manufacturer that has c**ped all over perfectly good stock Android with their own inferior UI.
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