As long as you can find colours for them that don't make the tube map look like even more of a unreadable mess, sure.
Just listening to fellow travellers. It’s not a comprehensive view, just an observation.
But much of the time it's really not "pretty useless". On any day that there's any disruption on any part of the overground which is *not* part of the Windrush line, you now don't have to check further. Before, the status summary would have just told you there was disruption somewhere on the overground and you would have had to check further. I'd think this would considerably reduce the number of times when further checking is required.
A lot of the diagrams in Victoria line stations are old. Some don't even make any reference to Overground at Highbury & Islington, instead just showing the National Rail symbol. This includes the ones behind the track where the advertising boards are - I would be very surprised if these were replaced for the new line names to be honest but it would be great to have consistency.
I live at the north end of the Weaver line too and completely agree - it's so much easier for me to now be able to quickly check, rather than see 'Overground - Part Suspended/Severe Delays/Minor Delays' to then have to scroll through the Romford-Upminster suspension, severe delays between H&I/Clapham Junction/New Cross with minor delays between Richmond and South Action to find out that I actually will be completely fine on my morning commute!
I don’t think most passengers really speak whilst travelling though
Interesting because l absolutely do, hence my post. I'm out and about in London every day, the benefits of an Oyster 60+...
Agreed. Even more so for the lines out of Liverpool Street which have less commonality.
Just lines 1,2,3 or A,B,C etc would suffice, far easier to remember.
Not only does it not fit in with the London tradition of having the lines named, U3 or whatever isn’t really any easier to remember. Until it enters the collective psyche you still need to check which line it is. Mildmay isn’t any harder to remember than A6 or whatever.
Just line 3, not U3 although most people will just refer to it as 'The Overground'. The names for LU lines are already well established so no point changing them
Plus the Victoria serves Victoria station, while the Piccadilly serves Piccadilly Circus, and runs along Piccadilly.
That some of the lines happen to be named after a particular feature or landmark that they pass does not mean that their names are in any way descriptively useful.
Metroland was named after the railway, which developed much of the suburbia in NW London in the 1920s and 1930s (and made a ton of money doing so).
And the District. And the Jubilee. And the Circle. And the Elizabeth.
The name goes back to the building of the GWR/Metropolitan joint line from Westbourne Park to Hammersmith in 1864. Picture shows the line's coat of arms, as carried on rolling stock used on the line.
True, although as a daily user of these lines out of Liverpool Street (as with you - the benefits of having a nominee pass!) I usually find that something impacting the Chingford branch will probably impact us up on the Enfield/Cheshunt route due to the lines being diagrammed Enfield-Liv St-Chingford-Liv St-Cheshunt-Liv St most of the day. As such if it says 'Weaver - Minor/Severe Delays' that's enough for me to look into it further on National Rail/Open Train Times/RTT and establish if I'll be ok or need to go an alternative way.
Ah, TY for that - l hadn't realised that the diagramming was done like that - current set-up makes more sense knowing that.
Hammersmith and City is probably the only descriptively useful name. Bakerloo comes from Baker Street and Waterloo, but these days that's not commonly known - most people just accept it as 'Bakerloo' for no reason. Northern going N/S is great, but then why not Southern line? Similarly, the Piccadilly, Jubilee, Metropolitan, Bakerloo, and Central all also go North. Yes, the Central line goes through the centre of London, but literally all Tube lines do. The only one that didn't was the ELL, which became Overground, and now is Windrush. The Piccadilly calls at Piccadilly Circus, yes, but so does the Bakerloo. The Victoria calls at Victoria, but so do the Circle and District.
this is the same problem for the district line, northern line, central line, DLR etc literally anything that isn't jubillee/bakerloo/victoria. Also problems on one Windrush branch will at least throw out the timetable a little on the core stem of the route either through missing trains or late ones delaying other ones.
The District? The Jubilee?
Waterloo and City?
If you know where those places are.
I think given quite a few tube lines have conservative names (Victoria, Jubilee and Elizabeth named after royalty) that the more liberal “woke” overground names add a bit of balance.
I'm not blaming you, but I think it's quite sad that the Overground names are thought of as 'woke' (what does that even mean). They are names that represent the history of certain areas in London, the history of people in London. Because this history relates to marginalised communities they're described as 'woke', which I don't like. The existence and history of women, people of colour, and the LGBTQ+ community should not be any more 'political' than the history of anything, or anyone else.
