New Heavy Haul Livery

[furnessvale]

HH have unveiled their new livery for class 66s.

I don't know what others think, but I am pleased that it features a full yellow end. I do not know if this is mandatory on 66s or not, but I do not hold with the theory that because newer safety features are introduced, we can remove existing safety features that cost nothing. A full yellow end should be compulsory on all locos and MUs.

Class 66 locomotive in Heavy Haul Rail livery | RAILMARKET.com

Heavy Haul Rail presents the first Class 66 locomotive in their livery.

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[Sun Chariot]

I don't know why, but I have an urge to pull* both ends of that 66, to stretch out all those vertical "crinkles".

* I was going to write Tug - but it's a Shed.

 

[43096]

HH have unveiled their new livery for class 66s.

I don't know what others think, but I am pleased that it features a full yellow end. I do not know if this is mandatory on 66s or not, but I do not hold with the theory that because newer safety features are introduced, we can remove existing safety features that cost nothing. A full yellow end should be compulsory on all locos and MUs.

Class 66 locomotive in Heavy Haul Rail livery | RAILMARKET.com

Heavy Haul Rail presents the first Class 66 locomotive in their livery.

railmarket.com

For that loco, yellow ends are not required as it has fully compliant headlights.

 

[fgwrich]

I quite like it, very European - esq and an almost BR Blue style teal base. What I do find odd is the extra yellow line above the cantrail above the cab.

It does also mean the paint shops will be kept busy for a while, including those Heavy Haul locos not so long ago put into Freightliner 60 Orange.

 

[furnessvale]

For that loco, yellow ends are not required as it has fully compliant headlights.

Exactly my point. Why remove a perfectly good, COST FREE, safety device because someone has fitted a different device?

 

[Strathclyder]

A rather smart package overall, if I do say so. The real test though, for me at least, is to see how the 70s look in it.

I quite like it, very European - esq and an almost BR Blue style teal base. What I do find odd is the extra yellow line above the cantrail above the cab.

That's the only thing that's bothering me about it. Perhaps it'll be like the Powerhaul livery on the few 66s that got it: a few detail differences on the first example that marks it out from the eventual standard.

It does also mean the paint shops will be kept busy for a while, including those Heavy Haul locos not so long ago put into Freightliner 60 Orange.

True that the paintshops and paint suppliers will be doing well out of this, but some locos will end up hanging onto their existing liveries for a while for sure. Look at how long the ex-RfD Red Triangle livery ended up lasting (think it managed to briefly overlap with G&E Orange/Black).

 

[Dunfanaghy Roa]

Never been able to see yellow ends at night, me. Lights, no probs.
Pat

 

[xotGD]

Barcode livery.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I personally love this livery. I did most of my spotting in the 1970s BR Blue livery so this is fantastic to me.

 

[furnessvale]

Never been able to see yellow ends at night, me. Lights, no probs.
Pat

When I worked on the track in my youth I saw the ends of trains by day and by night. I was glad of every safety device available and no one will ever convince me that removing one that cost nothing because some designer could make the end look prettier is anything but a bad idea.

 

[Dunfanaghy Roa]

When I worked on the track in my youth I saw the ends of trains by day and by night. I was glad of every safety device available and no one will ever convince me that removing one that cost nothing because some designer could make the end look prettier is anything but a bad idea.

When high-intensity headlights came in (early 80s, I think) I remember seeing a 50 on an Exeter train coming through Weybridge while I was standing at Byfleet Junction. Bright sunny day.
Pat

 

[Sun Chariot]

When high-intensity headlights came in (early 80s, I think) I remember seeing a 50 on an Exeter train coming through Weybridge while I was standing at Byfleet Junction. Bright sunny day.
Pat

Even the class 87s, introduced 1973, were easier to see from a distance (i.e. the straight stretch either side of Cheddington WCML); much farther away than the AL's.

Back to OP topic - I don't think the new livery's design flatters the shape of a 66. The teal base-colour is superb but, to me, the design-elements have lesser impact.

 

[Mike_L_Surrey]

Exactly my point. Why remove a perfectly good, COST FREE, safety device because someone has fitted a different device?

Both the yellow end & lights have their advantages. Yellow end is fail-safe in not requiring any power and can be seen from a side view and for railway workers is a known warning.

Lights obviously work at night (if powered) .

 

[D1537]

I like that, and it's good that they've saved money by knocking a new logo together in 5 minutes using MS Paint.

 

[Sun Chariot]

...it's good that they've saved money by knocking a new logo together in 5 minutes using MS Paint.

where's the Like button!

 

[furnessvale]

Both the yellow end & lights have their advantages. Yellow end is fail-safe in not requiring any power and can be seen from a side view and for railway workers is a known warning.

Lights obviously work at night (if powered) .

To be fair, lights also work during the day, but isn't there a rule that if the lights fail speed has to be restricted?

 

[GB]

Lights obviously work at night (if powered) .

...and turned on!

 

[Mike_L_Surrey]

...and turned on!

I would hope the high-intensity light comes on automatically when a locomotive/multiple-unit is in motion.

If there’s an on switch, then inevitably someone sometime will forget to switch it on.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

A rather smart package overall, if I do say so. The real test though, for me at least, is to see how the 70s look in it.

Rail 1057 says the livery will have slightly different versions for 59s, 66s and 70s.

Not sure why 59s and 66s need a different version from each other - they're externally as good as identical aren't they?

 

[littledude]

I would hope the high-intensity light comes on automatically when a locomotive/multiple-unit is in motion.

If there’s an on switch, then inevitably someone sometime will forget to switch it on.

There very much is an ‘on’ switch, and it’s up to the driver to select off, dimmed, full or marker.

 

[furnessvale]

There very much is an ‘on’ switch, and it’s up to the driver to select off, dimmed, full or marker.

I am certain there would be occasions when I driver would want to dim powerful headlights so as not to dazzle an oncoming driver.

Which neatly brings me to another pet safety idea of mine. If headlights were polarised in one plane but windscreens polarised in a different plane, everyone except an oncoming driver could see the headlights clearly no matter how bright they were, but an oncoming driver would see a dimmed version depending on what degree of polarisation was chosen. The polarisation could be incorporated in the driver's sunshield enabling them to use it as required.

Perhaps an improvement to the headlight regime?

 

[chipbury]

I cycled past Bristol Portbury dock yesterday and there were a fleet of new Renault vans in Heavy Haul Rail livery!

Attached photo of Renault vans in car park.

 

[47286Dan]

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Should be the next to come out in Heavy Haul livery

Dan