New fleet for Southeastern Metro in future franchise / concession

[unkn0wn erRxr]

does the sheerness line use 3 car 375s now?

if southeastern got new 707s or whatever, they would become the mainline trains and the 375/77s would become the metros, the 465s are becoming too old and really need replacing

 

[JonathanH]

does the sheerness line use 3 car 375s now?

if southeastern got new 707s or whatever, they would become the mainline trains and the 375/77s would become the metros, the 465s are becoming too old and really need replacing

No, the 375s and 377s would not meet the specification required for metro services even with a pretty major refit. If there is going to be a new fleet it is for the metro services.

 

[brad465]

does the sheerness line use 3 car 375s now?

Yes, albeit they were forced to because of the 466 derogation stating they cannot operate on their own (except on the Bromley North branch). 466s do still visit though on peak services between Sheerness and Victoria on a normal weekday timetable in a 6 car 465 + 466 formation for 2 evening (and I think 2 morning) services.

 

[klass43]

Thanks. I should have add a question mark in the title or just change the wording slightly...

Class 321 is even older than Class 465.
Not sure whether class 379 can be fitted with third-rail shoe (and I doubt that's suitable for services within London. It could be suitable for Tunbridge Wells / Tonbridge service.

321 Renatus (major refurb 2016+) are significantly different from the standard 321s. e.g. fitted with air conditioning.

321s were built by BREL, as were the 319s (dual voltage), so it's likely to be an easy conversion to 3rd rail.

 

[Domh245]

321s were built by BREL, as were the 319s (dual voltage), so it's likely to be an easy conversion to 3rd rail.

The 321s afaik weren't built with the 750v DC bus that is found on the 319s and later (post privatisation) emus - conversion to third rail would not be easy and would involve near enough complete replacement of traction equipment.