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New DBS intermodal Southampton contract

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Domeyhead

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Great news for those who like their Class 66s scarlet as DBS have just signed a contract with CMA-CGM to shift a minimum of 25k containers pa from Southampton. Will typically see three new trains per day 5 days per week in eahc direction to t'north.
However questions:-
a) is this new to rail business or is this a win from Freightliner, GBRf or whoever?
b) As far as I can tell the former EWS container terminal consisted of nothing more than an area of quayside next the aggregate mounds in Western Docks. Does this signify a massive investment to produce a freightliner-quality terminal?
c) As the entrance to the western docks faces east does this suggest these trains will all head up the Winchester route rather than the diversionary route round Laverstoke loop and Andover?
d) Where the heck are they going to stack all these containers if the proposed Helius power station goes ahead - the port will need all that space for combustible biomass!
 
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25k containers? Are you sure about that? Seems a lot of boxes for EWS to shift given the size of there terminal, i could quite easily imagine Freightliner shifting that many due to them having Maritime and Millbrook terminals and the amount of trains they run!
but to try and answer some of your questions.......

A, The traffic won't have been won from GBRf as they don't run to Southampton doing intermodel work (as much as they'd like to), i'd be more inclined to guess that this is a contract renewal with maybe a few extra boxes thrown in, maybe CMA are putting more ships into Southampton, in which case i should think EWS, Freightliner and the road Hauliers are gonna be doing more CMA work.

B, To be honest their terminal is no more than a siding served by trucks and tugs that work internally in the docks, id be very surprised if they were to upgrade with over head cranes as theres just not the room, besides there is stuff that crosses the railway over the siding that would get in the way of cranes, i think they will carry on as they are but just get trains tipped and turned around quicker.

C, They still can go via Laverstock loop and Andover, when they get to Eastliegh they can just turn left onto the Romsey road to go that way, but i dunno if that route from Eastliegh to Romsey is cleared for high cube boxes.

D, EWS work with a Road haulier called Pentalver Transport, its their vehicles that supply the train with boxes bringing them from the quay to the train and vise versa, Pentalvers have an awfull lot of land inside the docks so they will no doubt store all the nessary boxes, they have a big yard next to dock gate 10 and there is a DBS sign on the gate as you drive in!
As for the power station i really can't see it happening, one reason being is the ports owners will probably want to much money for the land.

Its all my own opinion but i'll try and find out more as i go in and out the docks!
 

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Great news for those who like their Class 66s scarlet as DBS have just signed a contract with CMA-CGM to shift a minimum of 25k containers pa from Southampton. Will typically see three new trains per day 5 days per week in eahc direction to t'north.
However questions:-
a) is this new to rail business or is this a win from Freightliner, GBRf or whoever?
b) As far as I can tell the former EWS container terminal consisted of nothing more than an area of quayside next the aggregate mounds in Western Docks. Does this signify a massive investment to produce a freightliner-quality terminal?
c) As the entrance to the western docks faces east does this suggest these trains will all head up the Winchester route rather than the diversionary route round Laverstoke loop and Andover?
d) Where the heck are they going to stack all these containers if the proposed Helius power station goes ahead - the port will need all that space for combustible biomass!

Based on working for 50 weeks of the year, they are only moving 100 boxes per day. Thats not much. Cant see it being much of a problem.
Plus with 3 trains a day, you will probably not be seeing 100 there at a time.
 

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From yesterday's press (I understand)

Lloyd’s List - CMA CGM signs two-year rail deal with DB Schenker at Southampton

http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/sector/ports-and-logistics/article368643.ece

Move to carry high cube boxes on conventional train wagons persuades French line to send more than 25,000 containers via UK port per year

The £60m ($98m) track gauge upgrade for UK south coast container hub Southampton, allowing high cube 9ft 6in maritime boxes to travel on conventional rail wagons, is already paying back on its investment.

French container line CMA CGM last week signed a two-year contract to send more than 25,000 boxes a year on DB Schenker Rail (UK) intermodal services.

German-owned DB Schenker has three trains a day, operating five times a week, which will deliver in each direction containers from the port of Southampton to inland terminals at Birmingham, Manchester Trafford Park and Wakefield.

Privately, DB Schenker is making much of the deal, emphasising that the contract marks new business secured in competition from rival operator Freightliner, the latter with an estimated 80% marketshre of container rail freight at Southampton.

It said in a statement: “The agreement is the largest UK container contract ever signed by DB Schenker Rail and reflects the position the company has gained as a major supplier to this market.”

DB Schenker, still known fondly to many as EWS, says that volumes are however expected to exceed the initial level of 25,000 containers as it works jointly with CMA CGM — the world’s third largest box line — on adding freight trains as demand dictates.

Freightliner sources indicated that it expects to maintain a “significant” level of its existing business from the French carrier, pointing out that the DB Schenker deal relates to high cube boxes that previously would have bypassed Southampton — because of track and capacity contstraints — to be feedered back to the UK.

The traffic win also refers, indicated the same sources, to modal switch traffic that will now use the upgraded rail link out of Southampton rather than going by truck, although there will be an increase in carrier haulage.

A spokesperson for CMA CGM at the Marseille head office said: “There shall be some minor migration from the West Coast Feeder (between Le Havre – Liverpool) but in the main this represents a switch of modality from truck to rail and also an increase in carrier haulage.”

The spokesperson added: “This approach is entirely consistent with our environmental aims and objectives as it will allow the group to increase its use of rail on distance work.

“CMA CGM is willing to take a greater percentage of imports as carrier haulage as it will provide more opportunities for rail and ‘tip-and-reload’ via truck, improving overall transport efficiencies and performance through CMA CGM control.

“The group continues to promote Intermodal transportation, which offers its customers an efficient, cleaner and complete door-to-door service.”

The rail upgrade has not been without controversy, with UK freight forwarders group Bifa asking the Office of Fair Trading to review a £3 per box surcharge imposed by port owner ABP to defray its 10% contribution to the track upgrade.

The enhancements — essentially lowering track through tunnels and under bridges — mean that high cube boxes, increasingly the norm in international maritime trade, can now reach major consumer destinations on standard wagons. In the past they had to use special low-slung rail wagons which are expensive to make, in short supply and have a high maintenance cost.

DB Schenker Rail (UK) chief executive Alain Thauvette said: “The container market is the fastest growing sector of the rail freight industry. With each intermodal freight train capable of removing up to 70 lorries from the road network, this is also good news for reducing both carbon emissions and road congestion levels.”
 

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...They still can go via Laverstock loop and Andover, when they get to Eastliegh they can just turn left onto the Romsey road to go that way, but i dunno if that route from Eastliegh to Romsey is cleared for high cube boxes.

It definitely isn't cleared yet. The details of the clearance work needed for the W10 diversionary route project is all listed in NR's plans, but I think the work is only very recently started, as they couldn't close the Laverstock route at all while the direct (via Winchester) route was still being worked on.
 

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Thanks chaps. It definitely is 25k boxes - DBS/EWS's biggest intermodal contract by some distance, and they reckon that the 25k figure is just a contract minimum that will definitely be exceeded.
Gearjammer - you're on the case!
 
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