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"New Celia" annoucements

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stuartbaggs

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Anyone know why the new celia announcements (with ding dong) are being used at Winchester, Eastleigh etc but not at other places?

Will they be rolled out to all stations on SWR network?
 
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Hi

Anyone know why the new celia announcements (with ding dong) are being used at Winchester, Eastleigh etc but not at other places?

Will they be rolled out to all stations on SWR network?

It was a trial done by SWT (previous franchisee)

They aren't being rolled out further, as SWR is switching to the ATOS system from August.
 

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Hi

Anyone know why the new celia announcements (with ding dong) are being used at Winchester, Eastleigh etc but not at other places?

Will they be rolled out to all stations on SWR network?

Some SWR stations have separate announcement zones, such as Southampton Central, with different voices to differentiate which platform they are referring to. Last time we had this discussion it was suggested they would not initially be changing.
 
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They aren't being rolled out further, as SWR is switching to the ATOS system from August.
I wish the TOCs weren't so hell-bent on rolling out this god-awful system. Oh, well. Another reason for me to carry some noise-cancelling earphones when I'm travelling around SWR territory.
 

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Shame, they are slower and much clearer.

Does that mean we will have Anne from August?
 

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I wish the TOCs weren't so hell-bent on rolling out this god-awful system. Oh, well. Another reason for me to carry some noise-cancelling earphones when I'm travelling around SWR territory.

Well she's much better than the text to speech system fitted to most EMT and ATW stations...
 
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Well she's much better than the text to speech system fitted to most EMT and ATW stations...
That's also ATOS, but with the TTS setting. Also god-awful, but for different reasons. Southeastern used the "Terrible TTS" option briefly before switching over to Annoying Anne.
 

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That's also ATOS, but with the TTS setting. Also god-awful, but for different reasons. Southeastern used the "Terrible TTS" option briefly before switching over to Annoying Anne.
Actually Anne's early recordings, like those found at larger EMT stations sounds a lot better than her later stuff, they almost have a musical quality.
 

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Actually Anne's early recordings, like those found at larger EMT stations sounds a lot better than her later stuff, they almost have a musical quality.

Her dreary accent makes it more of a "dystopian future computer" feeling to me. She is very clear though, which I guess is a priority.

I do think the ATOS system needs a male voice as well. When Anne is babbling on two platforms at once it's really hard to hear.
 

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Her dreary accent makes it more of a "dystopian future computer" feeling to me. She is very clear though, which I guess is a priority.

I do think the ATOS system needs a male voice as well. When Anne is babbling on two platforms at once it's really hard to hear.

I disagree, her earlier annoucements to places like Matlock & Worksop flow nicely and actually sound quite good IMO.
It's her later announcements on Southeastern and maybe GWR don't sound very good.
 

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It’s almost the default option for TOC’s to use the ATOS system now. TransPennine Express and Virgin Trains have replaced their previous system with the ATOS installation voiced by Anne.

I guess it’s down to cost and consistency. Easier to roll out updates, changes etc. across the board if everyone is using the same system.

I do wonder what Clapham Junction will be like if it is just Anne announcing, rather than a male and female voice as it is now.
 

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It’s almost the default option for TOC’s to use the ATOS system now. TransPennine Express and Virgin Trains have replaced their previous system with the ATOS installation voiced by Anne.

I guess it’s down to cost and consistency. Easier to roll out updates, changes etc. across the board if everyone is using the same system.

I do wonder what Clapham Junction will be like if it is just Anne announcing, rather than a male and female voice as it is now.
It is possible to have a second voice added - Anne is the default but GWR use Rodger, Southern use Matt and ATW use Eryl - So SWR may record a second voice to the system.
 

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TransPennine Express and Virgin Trains have replaced their previous system with the ATOS installation voiced by Anne.
Virgin West Coast stations don't have ATOS do they?
Last time I was aware, they signed a new deal for automation with AMEY.

I wonder what station announcements would sound like if the announcers had a bit more urgency in their announcements. Not like am army general in war, but would be fun to hear some that are almost panicked in voice, but then airy fairy for general announcements.
 

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I wonder what station announcements would sound like if the announcers had a bit more urgency in their announcements. Not like am army general in war, but would be fun to hear some that are almost panicked in voice, but then airy fairy for general announcements.

Must admit I like the "silent airport" approach of only announcing really important things but having screens everywhere. Surely there is a better technology based option for serving blind and partially sighted people the information they require directly than continuous droning?
 

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Must admit I like the "silent airport" approach of only announcing really important things but having screens everywhere. Surely there is a better technology based option for serving blind and partially sighted people the information they require directly than continuous droning?

Since the purpose of both the screens and loudspeakers is to provide information that passengers will find useful, voice announcements have the advantage that you can hear them (almost) wherever you are on a station, and they can attract your attention when it's on something else. But you have to be looking at a screen to be aware of what it's displaying, and if you're doing something else you have to remember to switch your attention from that to a screen in order to get the information you may want.

Your point about "continuous droning" illustrates the downside of loudspeakers: all kinds of other stuff can easily be added which is of limited interest and unfortunately has the effect of causing people to pay less attention and thus miss something they wanted.

I'm sure the technology could easily be developed to insert a chip into the ear of people who are blind or have seriously impaired vision, which would pick up a digital signal and convert it to sound in order to let them know that their train was approaching (or had been cancelled for the next two months, in the case of certain TOCs). [I can't find an icon for "I didn't really mean that last bit".]
 

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I do wonder what Clapham Junction will be like if it is just Anne announcing, rather than a male and female voice as it is now.

Now that Clapham Junction and Guildford are Network Rail operated stations, I wonder if Phil/Celia announcements will be around longer there than at SWR stations?
 

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Please remember that many station PA systems are also station evacuation systems which are used in the case of fire or other emergencies. They are required to cover all public areas at a particular sound level and with a fixed level of clarity. See BS 5839 for more details of voice evacuation systems.
 

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Phil is also available on ATOS, isn't he? I am saddened to hear this. Hopefully he doesn't go.
With his passing, his announcements are very likely to go due to him not being able to record anything new. He is still at some Chiltern Railways stations though!
 

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With his passing, his announcements are very likely to go due to him not being able to record anything new. He is still at some Chiltern Railways stations though!

And many of the smaller Southern stations.
 
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