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National Express-delay repay?

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londonbridge

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I recently made a National Express coach journey. The coach broke down and the driver called in for a replacement coach to which we transferred before continuing the journey. As a result I arrived at my destination half an hour late. Have had a quick glance through the website and was wondering if Nat Express offer any sort of compensation/delay repay scheme?
 
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I read something about getting a refund if your journey was delayed by over 2 hours and over a distance of more than 250 km
 

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If I was in a coach that broke down and a replacement was ordered, arrived, passengers and luggage transferred, and destination reached only half an hour late, I'd be well impressed !
 

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If I was in a coach that broke down and a replacement was ordered, arrived, passengers and luggage transferred, and destination reached only half an hour late, I'd be well impressed !

That was my thinking too! Are you sure it was NatEx and not 'Anneka Rice Coaches' or something?
 

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Last time I was held up on National Express it was around 90 mins late. Though Given it took two hours to get from Victoria to Heathrow and there was a surprise motorway closure which wasn't signed until after a sensible diversion so bonus trip to Dursley and back on the A38 (40 mins to go 1km if the M5 slip road had been open!) I think they did OK under the circumstances, the crew change took place in a layby on a roundabout near Bridgwater as the driver was almost out of hours (and would have been if the change couldn't be moved from Taunton services)
 
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Is it a myth or are passengers more forgiving if a coach runs late?

I think it's true and I put this down to most passengers having far more awareness of the difficulties of driving than they do of the difficulties in running a railway!

Many years ago I was on a coach that was diverted due to an accident on the M4. We arrived in South Wales more than two hours late and there wasn't a murmur from anyone on board. A couple of weeks later I was on a train that was 40 mins late due to a signalling problem and all I could hear wa s'Bloody British Rail', 'the railways are a shambles', 'this is a third world country' and so on.
 

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If I was in a coach that broke down and a replacement was ordered, arrived, passengers and luggage transferred, and destination reached only half an hour late, I'd be well impressed !

The driver managed to make up some time by way of the fact that no-one was booked to get on/off at Golders Green so we went straight from Milton Keynes to Victoria.
 

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I think it's true and I put this down to most passengers having far more awareness of the difficulties of driving than they do of the difficulties in running a railway!

I have worked in both industries. I would say it is more down to what is visible. While they may drive the average coach passenger is not aware of restrictions due to vehicle size, drivers hours etc.
If they are on board and a delay occurs they can see why. There is no interest in what are viewed as excuses about traffic or other causes before that point.
On a train you grind to a halt in the middle of nowhere and hopefully an announcement will be made. There is an issue with public perception where even delays caused by outside agencies fall into the "Useless BR" category. There are times the railway industry does not help itself and I have sat in disbelief at the causes of some in house delays. The one time there was not a murmer regarding a train delay was when the one I was travelling on was involved in a fatality. Nothing could be seen but the sounds were sufficient to know something serious was wrong followed by a rather shaky announcement even though this was at a time such things were described as "an incident."
 

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I always thank the driver when I alight from a bus or coach but it would never even cross my mind to do likewise leaving a train.

I am also genuinely grateful to my Megabus driver who most times gets me to London or Cardiff about half an hour early for a fare seldom exceeding £5 ! There just isn't the same connection with a train driver.
 

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I have worked in both industries. I would say it is more down to what is visible. While they may drive the average coach passenger is not aware of restrictions due to vehicle size, drivers hours etc.
If they are on board and a delay occurs they can see why. There is no interest in what are viewed as excuses about traffic or other causes before that point.

Yes, that's true. Being stuck in heavy traffic is very visible to a coach passenger, and they will also have had experience of it in a private vehicle, either as a passenger or driver.

On a train you grind to a halt in the middle of nowhere and hopefully an announcement will be made. There is an issue with public perception where even delays caused by outside agencies fall into the "Useless BR" category. There are times the railway industry does not help itself and I have sat in disbelief at the causes of some in house delays.[/QUOTE]

Again true. But I would add that if announcements are made in good time and contain as much information that is available, passengers will be more accepting of the situation, particularly when there has been a fatality.

Of course, one of the differences that I failed to mention originally is the fact that as far as most passengers are concerned, 'the railway' is all one system under the control of 'the railway' with no outside interference, unlike the road system which is generally open to all without any real controlling infrastructure!

The one time there was not a murmer regarding a train delay was when the one I was travelling on was involved in a fatality. Nothing could be seen but the sounds were sufficient to know something serious was wrong followed by a rather shaky announcement even though this was at a time such things were described as "an incident."

In my experience, both when working on the railway and as a passenger, honesty is the best policy. Whenever an incident has been announced as a fatality there has been a more positive response from passengers, even those who have been delayed for several hours.
 

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I've experienced a number of delays when traveling on NX services- some due to traffic problems and a couple due to vehicle problems.

The first few times I experienced delays on the 040 Bristol-London route none of the drivers or station staff mentioned that there was a legal requirement for the driver to take a break which resulted in me and a couple of other passengers moaning about the driver sitting in their cab and messing about. During another incident where that service was delayed, the driver explained about the legal requirement for a break and I've not moaned about a delay in that way again.

I've genuinely found that on the majority of occasions when there's been a delay on an NX service either due to heavy traffic or a breakdown, the drivers have been apologetic and explained the reason for the delay in a professional manner which passengers are most likely to understand and accept and in the instances where there have been passengers making connections on board, the drivers have assured them that arrangements will be made for them to get to their destination.

However, a while back I experienced two delays on the Leeds-Birmingham service within a short space of time. The first of these was on an everyday service with a full time operator. The driver kept the passengers well informed, was extremely apologetic for the delay and assured everyone with connections that their coaches would be held at Digbeth for them. And when we did eventually arrive, a member of staff was there to meet us and to direct connecting passengers to their services.

However, the second of these was on an additional weekend only service with an operator who only worked irregular journeys on the network and mainly did private hire. On this occasion we were delayed by several hours due to snow and a diversion as a result of another service breaking down. I appreciate the driver did their best under the circumstances but at the end of the journey, they did not apologise for the delay or offer any instructions to connecting passengers. Additionally when we finally did arrive at Digbeth the staff didn't seem to have been made aware that there were connecting passengers on board the service. I wasn't sure if this was down to the driver or due to the fact that it was late on Friday evening and there were fewer staff members on duty.

Does anyone have any opinion, is the handling of a delay to an NX service different depending on whether the operator runs services on a full time/everyday basis or on a part time/irregular basis?
 
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