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My opinion: Things need to change

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It's worth keeping in mind that suspension of certain cancer treatments isn't about capacity of NHS or it's ability to provide the treatment, it's down to the fact that the treatments have such a fundamentally debilitating impact on the immune system that many patients who have good odds of successful cancer treatment would be at grave danger of not surviving exposure to covid-19 while on their cancer treatment.

That’s certainly true. But if you were mid way through a course of chemo, you might well want to take the risk. That choice has been denied to patients - it certainly was in the case I’m aware of. That is absolutely scandalous.

And that’s before we consider the lack of diagnoses. Many thousands of people will die of curable cancers over the next few years as a result of what’s happening at the moment.
 
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I propose that we advise those shielding to continue to do so for the meantime and we essentially 'lock off' care homes for the meantime in order to protect those who are most vulnerable of dying from this virus. Aside from this, I propose that the above changes should be made in order to allow us to switch to this more realistic and meaningful approach:

This approach would, of course, result in some preventable deaths, but that's just inevitable. The current approach is simply not working, we are placing the education of our children, the economy, and our livelihoods at risk, and I think it's time for some major change to come and for us to adopt a more realistic approach. There is practically no way that we can eliminate the virus given the number of cases and the rate we are easing the current lockdown, which simply means that, realistically, the only possible way to exit this pandemic is through achieving herd immunity. If a vaccine becomes available, then following this approach we would still have protected the most vulnerable and would be able to vaccinate them to allow society to return to normal more quickly, however, we need to realise that achieving herd immunity is our only way out and since a vaccine is not yet readily available (it may never) and our economy is already seeing huge damage caused from the current lockdown, we need to move to a different approach to minimise all-round damage and try to emerge from this pandemic as economically healthy as we possibly can.

So as one of at least 1.6 million who are shielding how long do you propose we will have to shield for? also contrary what appears to be the view many on here I'm not an OAP I'm still of working age and still work or at least I did until the arrival of the virus and no I cannot work from home.

If I tuck the same cavalier attitude to the effects on employment of the virus as you seem to do to the virus, well I could say if un-employment goes above 3 million well frankly that's tough, I was around in the days when un-employment was at that level and yes it did have some impact on my life but i just had to deal with it just as everyone else did.
 

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So as one of at least 1.6 million who are shielding how long do you propose we will have to shield for? also contrary what appears to be the view many on here I'm not an OAP I'm still of working age and still work or at least I did until the arrival of the virus and no I cannot work from home.

If I tuck the same cavalier attitude to the effects on employment of the virus as you seem to do to the virus, well I could say if un-employment goes above 3 million well frankly that's tough, I was around in the days when un-employment was at that level and yes it did have some impact on my life but i just had to deal with it just as everyone else did.

The brutal reality is that you will soon face a stark choice: you’ll either go back to work, or you’ll become unemployed. If you can afford not to work, great. If not, you’ll be going back to work. Frankly, that’s tough!

And quite rightly so, I’m afraid, because the government can’t keep paying peoples’ wages indefinitely.


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