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My longest single train journey

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mumrar

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Hey everyone, not been on here much due to holidaying in Australia (I know, woe is me!).

Anyway, 7 hours ago I arrived at Perth East station having travelled all the way from Sydney on the Indian Pacific which is run by Great Southern Rail who in turn are owned by Serco. The train traverses a total of 4352 kilometres over some of the most inhospitable and some of the most wonderful and fertile territory. The journey took a total of 93hrs10mins which is in keeping with the more sedate pace of rail travel over here - obviously their is lots of stops for crew changes, passengers boarding and disembarking, train reformation and refuelling and watering the stock. The run out of Sydney traverses sme exceptionally busy suburban routes along the way, passing through Granville - site of Australia's worst ever rail disaster in 1977. The disaster was caused by a poor attitude to investment in maintenance that allowed the track to split beneath a packed commuter service. The unfortunate timing of this happening on a curve allowed the train to travel to the right of it's intended course and knock down every single pillar holding up a road bridge just before the station. Just seconds after the train had come to a halt the structural weakening of the bridge caused a large 380 tonne section of road to fall on top of parts of the 3rd and 4th carriages, ultimately claiming 83 lives! When suburbia subsides by Emu Plains the train travels up the Blue Mountains on some of the most impressively engineered mainline I've seen anywhere, climbimg 955m in around 70km between Lapstone and Bell (1069m above sea level which is 89m higher than Scafell Pike, England's tallest mountain) and with the use of no tunnels or viaducts between the two stations - there is both a tunnel and viaduct between Emu Plains and Lapstone but the people who have filled out Wiki don't have an altitude for Emu Plains station. The climb is immensly curvy and torturous with many deep excavated cuttings and large embankments. It's worth bearing in mind that the Settle and Carlisle line climbs to only 356m above sea level with the use of 22 viaducts and 14 tunnels in it's construction! As you roll back down the Blue Mountains toward Lithgow you go through the 'rat holes' - ten tunnels completed in 2010 to eradicate the world famous Zig-Zag Railway with it's steep gradients and double reversal needed to reach the valley floor. After passing Lithgow station it is not long before you cross Farmer's Creek on a large curved viaduct, and to the right as you travel you can see the much lower and narrower single track narrow gauge viaduct from the era of the first railway in the area. This was now some 3hrs30 after Sydney and with darkness my enthusiasm for recording all details also wained.

I would thoroughly recommend the long distance rail journeys operated by Great Southern Rail throughout Australia based on my experience of the longest they have to offer. Sure you can fly to Perth from Sydney in around 5 hours air time, but the cattle market approach to travel of airlines makes you glad that the journey is as short as possible. The staff are friendly, approachable and professional and tread a perfect balance between serving all the customers of the upto 26 carriage train, and ensuring everybody is behaving appropriately and lawfully.
 
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Sounds like a fab trip, something I'd love to do given the chance.

I've been to Sydney and to Perth in separate trips a couple of years ago and was impressed with the standard of the local trains. In Sydney apart from the Airport service from Circular Quay we travelled from Gosford on one of the CityRail double deckers. Very impressed with the ride quality and of course the scenery.
In Perth there has been a huge amount of money spent in upgrading routes and stock by the look of it, again very impressed with the local trains. It was fun trying to race the EMUs when driving up the Mitchell Freeway. The train won....:D
The day the Indian Pacific left Perth I was down at the station to have a look but forgot the train did not leave from Perth Station but East Perth - needelss to say I missed the opportunity to sneak a peek.

I'd love to head back down there soon...now where is that lottery ticket...?
 

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Very interesting report!

I contemplated doing the Indian Pacific last year but opted for the Ghan from Adelaide to Darwin, opearted by Great Southern Rail. Thoroughly enjoyed the 2 night trip through the Outback, with a few hours stopover in Alice Springs to explore and a short tour when stopping at Katherine. The Gold Kangaroo service was fantastic with a great Lounge car and Restaurant car. Not sure if you're doing the Ghan, Mumrar, but I'd definitely recommend it.

Not sure if it still applies but last year I got a great value ticket from Qantas that offered internal flights with some flexibility. I did Sydney-Melbourne-Adelaide, Darwin-Ayers Rock-Perth-Cairns-Brisbane-Sydney.
 

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Very interesting report!

I contemplated doing the Indian Pacific last year but opted for the Ghan from Adelaide to Darwin, opearted by Great Southern Rail. Thoroughly enjoyed the 2 night trip through the Outback, with a few hours stopover in Alice Springs to explore and a short tour when stopping at Katherine. The Gold Kangaroo service was fantastic with a great Lounge car and Restaurant car. Not sure if you're doing the Ghan, Mumrar, but I'd definitely recommend it.

Not sure if it still applies but last year I got a great value ticket from Qantas that offered internal flights with some flexibility. I did Sydney-Melbourne-Adelaide, Darwin-Ayers Rock-Perth-Cairns-Brisbane-Sydney.


A super-cheap way of getting round Aus (but only if you have the time) is to ask camper van companies if they have any vans that need relocating to another of their branches.

We took one from Alice Springs to Adelaide, and it was completely free, plus they gave us a fuel allowance too ... amazing. Quite a few of the companies offer this "service".
 

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Grampian Highlander railtour in August 1994. Almost 48 hours.

31203 + 31224 Birmingham - Crewe
90132 + 90150 Crewe - Mossend
56104 Mossend - Inverness (Rose Street)
37240 + 37275 Inverness (Rose Street) - Thurso - Wick - Welsh's Bridge Jct - Inverness - Aberdeen - Waterloo Goods - Aberdeen
56101 Aberdeen - Edinburgh
90135 Edinburgh - Crewe
31119 + 31134 Crewe - Stafford
 

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The Far North Explorer railtour last June

Dalgety Bay - Thurso 55022
Thurso - Wick 37516
Wick - Dalgety Bay 55022

Took 23 hours and I was lucky if I got 3 hours sleep
 

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Not sure whether Halifax-Montreal or Oakville-New York via Buffalo and Albany is longer. The first was a sleeper (Nightstar stock) while the second was a day train, but took sixteen hours. In Britain, it's probably Euston-Aviemore on the Deerstalker, on a snowy night when we were on the only train running. Possibly, the most miles in one day was Stevenage-Bellinzona via Lille, Mulhouse and Basel, half of which were flat-out at 186 mph. I've never worked it out, but it must have been over 1,000. It involved several changes, though.
 

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Aberdeen-Penzance last September. 13 hours 22 minutes timetabled, but we arrived about 10 down in the Zance.
 

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Tame by the standards of most but probably Glasgow Central to Crewe last year on a Pendolino (something like about 4 hours IIRC without looking) - the down service is the same distance but the up service got delayed so was on it for longer
 

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In Canada-
Toronto to Vancouver
...................took 3 and half days.

We were 7 hours late arriving which was also my record delay for a train I have been on.
 
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