My idea for Waterloo to regain through services

[Busaholic]

The most useful use would probably have been to have some LSWML services run through to Cannon Street for the City, Liverpool Street, Fenchurch Street, the District Line and the Central Line. But there isn't the spare capacity for that today.

Relieving the Drain would be the best usage if this idea ever came to fruition, so Cannon Street it would then be. Trouble is, the Cannon Street of thirty years ago with weekend closing and an offpeak shuttle to London Bridge is long gone so where's the capacity there now?

As books have been mentioned, Andrew Martin's 'Necropolis Railway' novel is worth a plug too- not the literary quality of my hero H.G. of course, but then what is?

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Some of those deep level shelters in South London and Northern Line fast tunnels do still exist, (they have been mentioned in other threads on this forum.) it would be good to have a sort of parallel Northern line, express.

Yes, I think the Waterloo link line was used by Queen Victoria's special train as mentioned here.

 

[Philip C]

I don't think anyone has previously posted this link which I expect to be of interest (if it works):

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101201649

 

[swt_passenger]

Sorry - just to show that I can be a railway history pedant - the site of the Necropolis station (per the 1872 OS map) was on the south (actually it's east) side of the approach tracks roughly at the point where the underpass which the 521 and 211 buses and the taxis use to get to the station concourse comes out.

Thanks, then I have also been misinformed. Possibly by someone having confused York Road (then) and York Road (now).

 

[infobleep]

Three better ways to Angel I have tried:

a) Northern Line CHX branch southbound to Kennington then City Branch northbound (works well and avoids the Waterloo crush on any line going northbound in the peak)

b) 341 bus all the way - variable depending on time of day - my record is 18 minutes with a racing driver and not much traffic!

c) 521 bus to Chancery Lane then walk - more reliable than the 341 because the 521 takes the Aldwych underpass but takes a bit longer!
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Now you have put your finger on a real benefit! Not a churchgoer but guess which I would go for??

Interestingly TFL journey planner didn't suggest any of those! I guess it would if I said bus only but the first one isn't bus only.

 

[The Ham]

*cough*

http://alondoninheritance.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Map-2.jpg

That would be a good start.

 

[cyclebytrain]

I can't believe that no one in this thread has yet commented that this idea would at a stroke make possible both trains from Ashford to Ashford and Gillingham to Gillingham (and Ashford to Gillingham of course)...

 

[DerekC]

I don't think anyone has previously posted this link which I expect to be of interest (if it works):

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101201649

Yes - the comparison of this with the 1872 version which I have is interesting as in the 23 years between the two the north and south stations were built. However I suspect that we ought to transfer this subject to the railway historical area!
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I can't believe that no one in this thread has yet commented that this idea would at a stroke make possible both trains from Ashford to Ashford and Gillingham to Gillingham (and Ashford to Gillingham of course)...

And just possibly Gillingham to Ashford via Ashford and Gillingham, although it might take a long time!

 

[JamesRowden]

I can't believe that no one in this thread has yet commented that this idea would at a stroke make possible both trains from Ashford to Ashford and Gillingham to Gillingham (and Ashford to Gillingham of course)...

And just possibly Gillingham to Ashford via Ashford and Gillingham, although it might take a long time!

And trains stopping at Martin Mill (Kent), Ashford International, Ashford (Surrey) and Martins Heron (Bracknell).

 

[Busaholic]

I can't believe that no one in this thread has yet commented that this idea would at a stroke make possible both trains from Ashford to Ashford and Gillingham to Gillingham (and Ashford to Gillingham of course)...

But, unfortunately, not Hayes to Hayes.

 

[Dr Hoo]

I can't believe that no one in this thread has yet commented that this idea would at a stroke make possible both trains from Ashford to Ashford and Gillingham to Gillingham (and Ashford to Gillingham of course)...

Such a route has long been possible via the South London Line. (Just back from doing Hanborough to Wanborough BTW.)

 

[Bald Rick]

But, unfortunately, not Hayes to Hayes.

And Crossrail 2 was so nearly St Margaret's to St Margaret's...