My idea for sobriety tests

[bussnapperwm]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

That is my view.

 

[LowLevel]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

That is my view.

Dream on. You're going to send a medical screening team out to me up to 4 times in a shift when my break locations can be over 100 miles apart? I'm sure whoever has to go out to Spalding every evening to see the evening Joint line crew will be delighted.

Also who pays for the extra booking on time and crews needed to cover the busted diagrams, and in the case of plenty of train crew buying our right to go home immediately after screening.

Then we move on to passengers. Are you expecting the driver to sobriety test passengers at unmanned driver only stations?

The whole concept in both forms is absolutely stupid and I hope it was a joke but I fear not.

 

[greyman42]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

That is my view.

I don't know if that would be practical after the Orange Order marches in Southport.

 

[bussnapperwm]

Dream on. You're going to send a medical screening team out to me up to 4 times in a shift when my break locations can be over 100 miles apart? I'm sure whoever has to go out to Spalding every evening to see the evening Joint line crew will be delighted.

Also who pays for the extra booking on time and crews needed to cover the busted diagrams, and in the case of plenty of train crew buying our right to go home immediately after screening.

Then we move on to passengers. Are you expecting the driver to sobriety test passengers at unmanned driver only stations?

The whole concept in both forms is absolutely stupid and I hope it was a joke but I fear not.

The staff one was a joke, but the passenger one wasn't.

Simple way of administering the test for suspected drunk punters...

BTP

 

[greyman42]

If everyone who was drunk was barred from travelling you would have a lot of London commuters stranded in London on a Friday night.

 

[Darandio]

The staff one was a joke, but the passenger one wasn't.

Simple way of administering the test for suspected drunk punters...

BTP

The same BTP that have infinite resources to station officers all around the country looking for people wobbling as they walk?

 

[greyman42]

The staff one was a joke, but the passenger one wasn't.

Simple way of administering the test for suspected drunk punters...

BTP

Would that be the BTP who did not have the resources to stop protestors bringing Manchester Piccadilly to a standstill?

 

[JohnRegular]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

Perhaps if your goal is to increase the number of people drink driving! I'm going to have to very strongly disagree with this one; I'd agree that anyone, sober or drunk or tripping on mushrooms, causing disruption, disorder or behaving violently, shouldn't be allowed on a train. But if I've had a few pints, was planning on quietly getting the train home, and was made to take a breathalyser test at which point I wouldn't be allowed on the train, I'd be outraged. What a waste of resources- indeed worse than a waste because you'll encourage people to drive home after boozy night out.

 

[ChiefPlanner]

Perhaps if your goal is to increase the number of people drink driving! I'm going to have to very strongly disagree with this one; I'd agree that anyone, sober or drunk or tripping on mushrooms, causing disruption, disorder or behaving violently, shouldn't be allowed on a train. But if I've had a few pints, was planning on quietly getting the train home, and was made to take a breathalyser test at which point I wouldn't be allowed on the train, I'd be outraged. What a waste of resources- indeed worse than a waste because you'll encourage people to drive home after boozy night out.

Is tripping on mushrooms that common ? - mind you I am told it is the season for these illegal consumptions

 

[yorkie]

The staff one was a joke, but the passenger one wasn't.

Simple way of administering the test for suspected drunk punters...

BTP

It's not at all practicable to do this.

As for the joke part of your post, please do bear in mind that in person we would be able to tell it was a joke by your tone of voice, but on an online forum you need to use a relevant 'emoticon' )) in lieu of this.

 

[GusB]

Is tripping on mushrooms that common ? - mind you I am told it is the season for these illegal consumptions

I have absolutely no knowledge of tripping on mushrooms - perhaps you'd be better seeking the expert opinion of the pink elephant sat opposite

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

That is my view.

Eh? How do you suspect someone is drunk? Different people respond differently to varying amounts of alcohol, and very often the same person can consume the same amount of alcohol on different occasions, but be affected in different ways. What do you propose to do - breathalyse everyone as they board the train? Which limits do you apply?

The worst thing that ever happened to me when I boarded a train drunk was that I was overcarried by one stop, and woke up feeling slightly bewildered. Sure, I could probably have been taken to the cleaners for travelling further than my ticket allowed, but I'm certain that the conductor on board was satisfied that the £25 taxi journey (it would have been £15 if I had woken up before the correct stop) was enough punishment for those few extra pints. I boarded safely, I alighted safely. I didn't bother anyone - I just dozed off on the way.

 

[6Gman]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

That is my view.

What form would this "sobriety test" take?
By whom would it be conducted?

 

[PR1Berske]

All people suspected of being drunk should undertake a sobriety test before boarding a train.

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

That is my view.

So I've used the train to visit a few pubs in Wigan. I'm on my own, 38 years old, prefer my cask and Untappd to Fosters and fighting.

Because I've had a few, I think it's time to get back to Preston. Having walked in a perfectly straight line without bothering anybody, I present my ticket to a member of staff who informs me that, regrettably, I'm over the limit so can't go anywhere.

Somewhat deflated by this, I wait at the platform to sober up using vending machine water. Two lads who smell of weed walk past me, giggling, getting on a train without being checked.

I thiiiink you might need to tone down your puritan streak

 

[t_star2001uk]

All safety critical staff should too at the start of each shift, as well as after lunch/personal needs breaks.

Whether this statement was meant as a joke or not, i am personally isulted by it. To even think that proffesional rail staff go and have a drink during thier shift or turn up for duty under the influence is a ridiculous statement to make. We are subject to an exttemely strict set of rules concerning drugs and alcohol including random testing.