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Hello
I remember a while ago there was a thread on how someone got a huge number of coupons for one round trip, but it later transpired that the round trip had been booked using multiple split ticketing.

I have just been surprised by the number of coupons issued for a simple round trip (Chelmsford to/from Alderley Edge) issued as two advance purchase singles!

Depart Chelmsford 9.15 via Liverpool Street to Euston
Catch the 10.40 from Euston (Manchester train) change at Wilmslow (arrives 12.26)
At Wilmslow catch the 12.31 train (destination Crewe), travel one stop to Alderley Edge arrives 12.34
If miss this connection, the next train for this 3 minute journey is at 13.02 arrives 13.05
Fare for this part of the trip is £17.15

Return trip
Depart Alderley Edge at 17.24 on train to Crewe arriving at 17.46
(note this is departing in same direction as arrived, not returning same way as came!)
At Crewe catch the 17.56 train to Euston arrives 19.38
Across to Liverpool Street by tube for train to Chelmsford. Worst case 20.30 departure, but should be able to make it for the one before at 20.18.
Fare for this part of the trip is £20.15

My expectation was 4 coupons, namely two singles for travel, and two reservation coupons, one for each of the VTWC legs of the journey. Even better would have been just two coupons, of the new format, with the travel and the VTWC reservations on the coupon.

What actually arrived, booked on the GA website and issued (I think) by trainline, was 8 coupons,
one each way for travel, one each way for seat reservation on GA, one each way for seat reservation on VTWC and one each way for specified train on Northern.

This is rather OTT I think. It also seems to mean that the passenger could not catch an earlier train from Alderley Edge to Crewe on the way back, if it suited them, nor catch the 20.18 from Liverpool Street to Chelmsford and save 12 minutes there if the transfer from Euston to Liverpool Street went well.

Could the tickets have been issued with less coupons? If so why weren't they? What would be the consequence of catching an earlier train from Alderley Edge to Crewe?
 
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Could the tickets have been issued with less vouchers? If so why weren't they? What would be the consequence of catching an earlier train from Alderley Edge to Crewe?

If you had an advance purchase ticket and you had a reservation on the later train then you would not have a valid ticket to travel on the earlier one.
 

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Just a quick note regarding the terminology - the railway industry refers to them as coupons rather than vouchers, though I'm sure much of the travelling public just refers to them as tickets. Meanwhile vouchers would be taken by most as referring to Rail Travel Vouchers, commonly issued as a method for providing delay compensation.
 

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Just a quick note regarding the terminology - the railway industry refers to them as coupons rather than vouchers, though I'm sure much of the travelling public just refers to them as tickets. Meanwhile vouchers would be taken by most as referring to Rail Travel Vouchers, commonly issued as a method for providing delay compensation.
Which was exactly what I took it to mean-and became rather confused once I started reading!
 

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My apologies, for wrong terminology, I have edited the title and the post!
I am still curious as to why so many coupons were needed for such a simple trip.
I have booked through from Billericay to VTWC destinations before and never received a specified train coupon for the GA part of the journey, giving me flexibility to catch an earlier train if Euston to Liverpool Street goes well.
And why issue a specified train coupon for a journey leg which only lasts 3 minutes?
 

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My apologies, for wrong terminology, I have edited the title and the post!
I am still curious as to why so many coupons were needed for such a simple trip.
I have booked through from Billericay to VTWC destinations before and never received a specified train coupon for the GA part of the journey, giving me flexibility to catch an earlier train if Euston to Liverpool Street goes well.
And why issue a specified train coupon for a journey leg which only lasts 3 minutes?
Because that is the way an Advance ticket quota works.
 

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Postscript:

Journey took place. The passenger travelled on exactly one of the six booked trains. On arrival at Chelmsford found that the 0915 was delayed 25 minutes at Colchester, so boarded the 0926 ex Braintree train. This was passed at Shenfield by the late running 0921 ex Norwich train.
Successfully boarded the 1040 from Euston which arrived 5 minutes late at Wilmslow resulting in missing the 1231 to Alderley Edge. Travelled instead on the 13.02.

For the return journey, commenced earlier than the booked time, I do not know the actual train, travelled to Crewe and on via Euston and Liverpool Street to Chelmsford arriving about 1930, i.e about 90 minutes early.

Passenger says that for each leg of the return journey, before travelling on the available train he asked the guard, showed his Disabled Persons Rail Card, and his tickets, and was permitted to travel.

Sounds like a good news story to me.
 
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