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Farigiraf

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It used to be a Cardiff/Swansea to Crewe Heart of Wales line service, but this no longer runs. I think the actual longest now will be one of the tube lines. I'm not sure which National Rail service makes the most stops now, but here are some contenders:
- Swansea to Shrewsbury (Heart of Wales)
- Aberdeen to Plymouth
- Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven
- Lancaster to Carlisle (Cumbrian Coast)
- Ellesmere Port to Ellesmere Port via Liverpool
 

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I haven't counted the numbers, but IIRC if you join a TfW Cambrian line train at Birmingham International, you get an announcement of all the stops to both Aberystwyth and Pwllheli, given in both Welsh and English. Takes a while!
 

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To give it some quantification (including origin and terminus):

- Swansea to Shrewsbury (Heart of Wales)

36 stops

- Aberdeen to Plymouth

35

- Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven

32

- Lancaster to Carlisle (Cumbrian Coast)

Not currently operating

- Ellesmere Port to Ellesmere Port via Liverpool

33

Edinburgh - Helensburgh

36 (2149 ex EDB)

Birmingham International to both Aberystwyth and Pwllheli

I make 15 to Aberystwyth, 38 Birmigham International to Pwllheli, so if we count the dividing service as the same service, I think that's our winner - though contentious, especially as it may not actually stop at request stops.

In terms of announcements, however, at 51 stations (102 if we count Welsh), I dont think that one is getting beaten!
 

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It used to be a Cardiff/Swansea to Crewe Heart of Wales line service, but this no longer runs. I think the actual longest now will be one of the tube lines. I'm not sure which National Rail service makes the most stops now, but here are some contenders:
- Swansea to Shrewsbury (Heart of Wales)
- Aberdeen to Plymouth
- Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven
- Lancaster to Carlisle (Cumbrian Coast)
- Ellesmere Port to Ellesmere Port via Liverpool
- Picadilly Line - Cockfosters to Uxbridge - 43 stops (during hours when it calls at Turnham Green)
- Central Line - Woodford to West Ruislip via Hainault 39 stops
- Lancaster to Carlisle (Cumbrian Coast) - 35
- Aberdeen to Plymouth via Newcastle 35 (although there is no direct sevice from Aberdeen to Plymouth this week)
- Swansea to Shrewsbury (Heart of Wales) 31
- Manchester - Milford haven Swansea - 29 (i can't find a service from manchester further into West Wales)
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- Ellesmere Port to Ellesmere Port via Liverpool - 33 (or Chester to Chester)
but if that counts, so does:
- Piccadilly Line Cockfosters to Cockfosters via Terminal 4 - 76

EDIT Aberdeen to Plymouth added
 
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- Lancaster to Carlisle (Cumbrian Coast) - 35

Currently this doesn't run and won't run for a fair while.

- Swansea to Shrewsbury (Heart of Wales) 31

36 (see above)

- Manchester - Milford haven Swansea - 29 (i can't find a service from manchester further into West Wales)

Just do an RTT all day search for trains operated by AW from MAN (its around midday).

- Aberdeen Glasgow to Plymouth via Newcastle 24 (there is no direct sevice from Aberdeen to Plymouth)

Yes there is. RTT search all XC operated departures from ABD. It may not be running this week due to the possession at Sheffield.

- Ellesmere Port to Ellesmere Port via Liverpool - 33 (or Chester to Chester)
but if that counts, so does:
- Piccadilly Line Cockfosters to Cockfosters via Terminal 4 - 76

Also agree these are contentious as they're out and back along the same line and from a users perspective these become a different service once they start duplicating stops as no one is doing Paddington to Ealing via Heathrow for example (unless they're very tired...).
 

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- Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven

32
There's a lot of variance with this one, as some stations on the line are only served by this route occasionally - Wem, Pyle, Kidwelly, Alderley Edge and Church Stretton to name a few. I don't think there's a single service that calls at all of these, but there may be one or two trains a day that make more than 32 stops. Plus there's the Fishguard-Manchester service which makes one less call in West Wales but can compensate by calling at almost every station along the Marches.

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(or Chester to Chester)
Most of them only call at Capenhurst in one direction, but the first and last few trains of the day do stop there in both directions.
 

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I make 15 to Aberystwyth, 38 Birmigham International to Pwllheli, so if we count the dividing service as the same service, I think that's our winner - though contentious, especially as it may not actually stop at request stops.

In terms of announcements, however, at 51 stations (102 if we count Welsh), I dont think that one is getting beaten!
I think TfW's auto announcements omit the request stops, just guards announce them manually if necessary when the service gets close to them. It's still a lot of calls though, and some stations seem to switch between request and compulsory status from time to time.
 

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Until fairly recently, GWRs Penzance to Cardiff services had 34/35 stops.

(St Erth, Hayle, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, Menheniot, St Germans, Saltash, St Budeaux Victoria Road, Plymouth, Ivybridge, Totnes, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Exeter St David’s, Tiverton Parkway, Taunton, Bridgwater, Highbridge, Weston, Worle, Yatton, Nailsea, Bristol Temple Meads, Filton Abbeywood, Patchway, Severn Tunnel Junction, Newport, Cardiff Central)
 

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A few years ago one of the services with a surprisingly high number of calls, IIRC 46 or 47, was an early morning Waterloo to Weymouth. Actually 48 stops, please see next post.
 
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Before covid there was a once a day Heart Of Wales Line from Crewe to Shrewsbury service with 50 calls (only four stations - Pencoed / Llanharen / Pontyclun / Ninian - were skipped):

01 Crewe
02 Nantwich
03 Wrenbury
04 Whitchurch (Shropshire)
05 Prees
06 Wem
07 Yorton
08 Shrewsbury
09 Church Streeton
10 Craven Arms
11 Broome
12 Hopton Heath
13 Bucknell
14 Knighton
15 Knucklas
16 Llangynllo
17 Llanbister Road
18 Dolau
19 Pen-y-Bont
20 Llandrindod
21 Builth Road
22 Climeri
23 Garth (Powys)
24 Llangammarch
25 Llanwrtyd
26 Sugar Loaf
27 Cynghordy
28 Llandovery
29 Llanwrda
30 Llangadog
31 Llandeilo
32 Ffairfach
33 Llandybie
34 Ammanford
35 Pantyffynnon
36 Pontarddulais
37 Llangennech
38 Bynea
39 Llanelli
40 Gowerton
41 Swansea
42 Llansamlet
43 Skewen
44 Neath
45 Briton Ferry
46 Baglan
47 Port Talbot Parkway
48 Pyle
49 Bridgend
50 Cardiff Central

Before covid there was also a once a day London Waterloo to Weymouth service with 48 calls (only six stations - Vauxhall / Queenstown Road / Earlsfield / Raynes Park / New Malden / Berrylands - were skipped):

01 London Waterloo
02 Clapham Junction
03 Wimbledon
04 Surbiton
05 Esher
06 Hersham
07 Walton On Thames
08 Weybridge
09 Byfleet & New Haw
10 West Byfleet
11 Woking
12 Brookwood
13 Farnborough Main
14 Fleet
15 Winchfield
16 Hook
17 Basingstoke
18 Micheldever
19 Winchester
20 Shawford
21 Eastleigh
22 Southampton Airport Parkway
23 Swaythling
24 St Denys
25 Southampton Central
26 Millbrook
27 Redbridge
28 Totton
29 Ashurst New Forest
30 Beaulieu Road
31 Brockenhurst
32 Sway
33 New Milton
34 Hinton Admiral
35 Cristchurch
36 Pokesdown
37 Bournemouth
38 Branksome
39 Parkstone
40 Poole
41 Hamworthy
42 Holton Heath
43 Wareham
44 Wool
45 Moreton
46 Dorchester South
47 Upwey
48 Weymouth

Both of these seem to be gone now but when they existed they were the previous top two winners for the most calls made by any trains.
 

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Just do an RTT all day search for trains operated by AW from MAN (its around midday).



Yes there is. RTT search all XC operated departures from ABD. It may not be running this week due to the possession at Sheffield.
Aberdeen, point taken.
manchester, I put in Manchester to Swansea into RTT "searching "all day" and got a nil return. Alsom can't find anything in TfW's own published timetables

What am i doing wrong?
 

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Aberdeen, point taken.
manchester, I put in Manchester to Swansea into RTT "searching "all day" and got a nil return. Alsom can't find anything in TfW's own published timetables

What am i doing wrong?
There is engineering work on a bridge near Swansea at the moment, so the line is closed.
Looking at the 13th I see the below with 32 stations (3 of which request stops).

or 35 (5 of which request)
 

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There is engineering work on a bridge near Swansea at the moment, so the line is closed.
Looking at the 13th I see the below with 32 stations (3 of which request stops).

or 35 (5 of which request)
Ah, thanks for that
 

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From a post a few weeks ago, Ferrol – Oviedo (103-104 stops depending on who was counting) held the record outside the UK.
 

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Aberdeen, point taken.
manchester, I put in Manchester to Swansea into RTT "searching "all day" and got a nil return. Alsom can't find anything in TfW's own published timetables

What am i doing wrong?

Suspect that was a happy coincidence on my part then - must have left my date search as next week for the Milford Haven one as I had no idea about the engineering works down there!
 

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If we allow the London Underground then i think that Upminster to Ealing Broadway on the District Line at 43 stations is the winner.

• 31 stops - Hainault to Ealing Broadway via Newbury Park

• 31 stops - Hainault to Ealing Broadway via Woodford

• 31 stops - Morden to Edgware via Bank

• 31 stops - Morden to Edgware via Charing Cross

• 32 stops - Morden to High Barnet via Bank

• 32 stops - Morden to High Barnet via Charing Cross

• 32 stops - Epping to Ealing Broadway

• 34 stops - Upminster to Kensington Olympia

• 36 stops - Hainault to West Ruislip via Newbury Park

• 36 stops - Hainault to West Ruislip via Woodford

• 37 stops - Epping to West Ruislip

• 37 stops - Uxbridge to Heathrow T123 & T4 (day)

• 37 stops - Uxbridge to Heathrow T123 & T5 (day)

• 38 stops - Uxbridge to Heathrow T123 & T4 (night)

• 38 stops - Uxbridge to Heathrow T123 & T5 (night)

• 41 stops - Upminster to Wimbledon

• 41 stops - Cockfosters to Uxbridge (day)

• 42 stops - Upminster to Richmond

• 42 stops - Cockfosters to Uxbridge (night)

• 43 stops - Upminster to Ealing Broadway

TFL had published a plan about ten years ago where they looked in to extending the District Line services to Uxbridge to replace the Piccadilly Line branch. The plans have gone very quiet so have probably been scrapped. But if that had gone ahead then we would have a 55 station Upminster to Uxbridge service which would be a clear winner.
 

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We're not allowed to count the London Underground, are we?
If so I propose the True Circle line (infinite).

Someone already said
- Piccadilly Line Cockfosters to Cockfosters via Terminal 4 - 76
which I don't think should count since it's a service to T4 then a completely new separate service.
Train 207 does Barking-Baker Street-Edgware Road-Victoria-Aldgate-Edgware Road-Hammersmith, which is 56 stops. However, the service technically changes at Aldgate, which is the 38th stop. There are also a few Upminster-Hammersmith trains each day, which is 37 stops, and on Sundays, train 277 does Barking-Ealing Broadway via Baker Street, which is 55 stops.

West Ruislip-Epping would also be 38 stops.
 

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I think TfW's auto announcements omit the request stops, just guards announce them manually if necessary when the service gets close to them. It's still a lot of calls though, and some stations seem to switch between request and compulsory status from time to time.
On the 158s, it only announces Birmingham International to Aberystwyth stops in English only but the do include an extra few “This train is for Aberystwyth and Pwllheli, and will be dividing on arrival at Machynlleth”. It is advertised as a through service for both portions at stations so should probably count as a through service. At Machynlleth, the Pwllheli portion will then be set up to show the mandatory stops along the coast, but the system will announce (twice) if there is a request stop before the next mandatory stop, and to tell the conductor if you wish to alight.

There is a video here if you wish to see how the current stock is set up.


YouTube video showing the announcements for services running along the Cambrian Coast.

Until fairly recently, GWRs Penzance to Cardiff services had 34/35 stops.

(St Erth, Hayle, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, Menheniot, St Germans, Saltash, St Budeaux Victoria Road, Plymouth, Ivybridge, Totnes, Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Exeter St David’s, Tiverton Parkway, Taunton, Bridgwater, Highbridge, Weston, Worle, Yatton, Nailsea, Bristol Temple Meads, Filton Abbeywood, Patchway, Severn Tunnel Junction, Newport, Cardiff Central)
One still runs, the 17:58 Cardiff-Penzance Looks like it has 36 stops excluding the origin.

 
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If that's the calling count for that service, the Aberdeen-Penzance must have been a contender for most stops back in its operating days. I can't remember exactly where in Cornwall it called, but would have got over 40 easily.
Pre-COVID (May 2019 GBTT), it made 43 intermediate calls.

Post-COVID, they removed a number of the smaller calls particularly in Scotland and only reinserted some of them before the service was truncated to Plymouth.

Going further back, for comparison, in the 1983 timetable the Dundee-Penzance was all stations to Edinburgh bar two (the return added those two), but was I think more limited stop south of there than the Aberdeen-Penzance.

I'd need to get out my timetable and count! ;)
 

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If some of these services that call at the same station more than once count, then my proposal is the Glasgow Subway. How many times does each vehicle do a full circle?
 

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If some of these services that call at the same station more than once count, then my proposal is the Glasgow Subway. How many times does each vehicle do a full circle?
They advise that the first train from Govan is the 06:30, last is the 23:16, and that 1 lap takes 24 minutes.
Therefore, if that first unit stays in service all day, it would do 42 laps (I get 42.91666667 but a train can't do 0.91 laps).

Does an inner circle train take less time than an outer due to having less distance to travel or is the effect un-noticable?
 
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