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Stargull

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Another complicated day I’m hoping there might be a simple solution for.

On 10/2, I want to do the following:

Denham - Barons Court
Barons Court - Hatfield
Hatfield - Oxford

All off peak (after 10am, avoiding evening peak). I have a network railcsrd

Feels like something like an oxford - London return or travel card starting short at Denham then extension to Hatfield should work, but the latter seems expensive. Contactless then a single to Oxford is easy but expensive?

Bonus question: if I took the Oxford leg out and just did Hatfield - Zone 1 are there different solutions?

Sorry for the complicated question!
 
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Perhaps somebody will have better ideas than mine, but this one feels like it should be cheaper than it is.

Option 1
An outboundary off-peak day Travelcard from Denham is £13 (would be £12.35 but there's a £13 minimum fare) and is valid for unlimited travel in Zones 1-6. You then just need extension tickets to get to Hatfield and back, and to Oxford.

An off-peak day return from Boundary Zone 6 to Hatfield is £6.90 (no discount on this because of the Network Railcard minimum fare).

An off-peak day single from West Drayton to Oxford is £15.95 with the Network Railcard. The West Drayton ticket is fractionally cheaper than the Boundary Zone 6 to Oxford ticket. It is only valid on trains passing through West Drayton (so anything going from Paddington via Reading). There's no need for the train to call at West Drayton because your Travelcard is a daily zonal ticket. If you want the option to go via High Wycombe, however, get the Boundary Zone 6 ticket instead. So that's £35.85 in total.

Option 2
I did wonder about a simple day return ticket from Oxford to Hatfield at £33.35, but by my reckoning that works out more expensive than option 1, not least because Barons Court is not in zone 1, nor is it on a plausible route between any pair of National Rail stations appropriate for the through journey you will ultimately be making, so I'm not at all sure you would be able to end your cross-London transfer short at Barons Court. I suppose if you said you had left the National Rail network at Ealing Broadway (which would be a lie if you were coming from Denham), then it might look reasonable for you to take the Eastbound District Line by way of Barons Court towards, for example, Blackfriars for a Northbound Thameslink service to Hatfield, in which case you could hypothetically end your transfer short at Barons Court, but I think that's stretching a point. Consequently, I suspect you would have to pay separately for the tube between Marylebone and Barons Court and between Barons Court and wherever you choose to pick up the train to Hatfield. Even on the heroic assumption that you only had to pay one tube fare rather than two, this would still cost fractionally more than option 1 and would give you less flexibility.

Option 3
Given that Project Oval is supposed to be the answer and the Transport Secretary is trumpeting her best fare guarantee, I did look at the price if you were to use Contactless wherever possible. If you did Denham to Barons Court, Barons Court to Hatfield and Hatfield to Reading on Contactless, changed trains and tapped out at Reading, then bought a single from Reading to Oxford, by my reckoning that would cost £8.05 more than option 1. I'm unaware of any caps that would serve to reduce the cost of the single journeys in this itinerary.
 

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Thank you for the thorough reply. I couldn’t shake the feeling there should be a clever way to do this, either…
 

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An Offpeak Travelcard from Oxford is £27.70, which is £1.45 cheaper than option 1 and certainly cheaper than option 2 which would require at least one Tube fare on top of the through ticket.

It is, of course, flexible as to route and starting short at Denham is permitted. It does need to be a paper ticket so would have to be booked online for collection (at Denham).
 

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An Offpeak Travelcard from Oxford is £27.70, which is £1.45 cheaper than option 1 and certainly cheaper than option 2 which would require at least one Tube fare on top of the through ticket.

It is, of course, flexible as to route and starting short at Denham is permitted. It does need to be a paper ticket so would have to be booked online for collection (at Denham).
Ah, yes, good point.

If leaving Denham shortly after 10am one might arrive at Marylebone at a time when it would not have been possible to get there from Oxford without departing before 10am.

This is perfectly valid, of course, but your advice to collect the ticket from Denham immediately before travelling (and not significantly before 10am, ideally) would be a good way of establishing, to the satisfaction of anybody who may query what time the OP started travelling, that they had started travelling after 10am and had started short. (I believe there is a suspicion, possibly justified to a certain extent, that some people start travelling before they should and then pretend that they started short if anybody questions it).
 
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