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More 60's Stored

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GNERman

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It has been reported on WNXX that more class 60's have been stored. These include celebrity and my favourite loco 60059 Swinden Dalesman in Loadhaul livery and amazingly 60040 in DB Schenker Red with Army logos. The list is as follows:

60012
60013
60018
60019
60021
60024
60026
60027
60040
60048
60059<(
60061
60062
60063
60066
60068
60091
60099
60100

Anyone as angry as me?<(
 
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I wonder if 091 will be back again in a few days? Thats what often happens with this one. I was very shocked too, leaving just 17 examples is it? then take off those from the 17 that are receiving attention. Is it now a case of get them while you can?
 

The_Rail_WAy

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I thought it was normal for the 60's to come in and out of storage beause of their poor reliability and high cost of maintenance. With the new 68's due to enter service soon I think we will see less and less of them on British railways. Sorry.
 

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I think that the 68's are being brought in to haul large loads (like a 60 does) but with more fuel efficiency - so they will probably take alot of the 60's workings making them even more redundant.

I am not sure about 60040- I could'nt quite understand that myself.
 

Muppet56097

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WHAT? 60059 IN STORAGE?

And why have they stored their "Army Be The Best" 60? What's the point?

Decision re which locos to store are made on the basis of condition, faults, expenditure needed now or in the foreseeable future and so on, and not on whether the locomotive has had a recent repaint or name.

The issue is more "why repaint and name a worn out loco that is a marginal member of the fleet" than "why store 60059".
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I wonder if 091 will be back again in a few days? Thats what often happens with this one. I was very shocked too, leaving just 17 examples is it? then take off those from the 17 that are receiving attention. Is it now a case of get them while you can?

Remember, it's Jan/Feb. No RHTT traffic to increase demands on the fleet, plus the heaviest demand for locos is always the Autumn anyway, not least as a result of seasonal fluctuations in the movement of coal. I am not saying those things are specifically class 60 turns, but it has an effect on the DB fleet overall.

The effects of the recession are always likely to be felt first and most heavily on the older, more expensive, less reliable locomotives. Why operate with your more expensive locos when there isn't enough work for the more modern and efficient ones.

I am sure there won't be mass withdrawals. I am also sure you won't ever see 80+ 60s in active service again. I can't see much chance of the much trumpted expenditure on the 60s in the current climate.
 

The_Rail_WAy

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DB Schenker were going overhaul 60 cass 60's over the next two years but cancelled thatb decision for 2 reasons:

(1) High costs during poor an economic downturn
(2) Decline in the use of heavy freight trafic such as petroleum, metals, stone which they usually haul due to their sheer stregnth.
 

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I think it's fair to say that the 60 refurb has been suspended, but I don't think forever.

After DB, I can see them having work with other operators, eg. DRS
 

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60040 and others should be back soon (currently on repairs, exams etc) although they will be replaced in the stored pools by others from the active pools so there will be no net increase in the fleet size unless traffic warrants it (which to be honest will need to be traffic that specifically requires a 60 as there are plenty of 66s sitting spare).
 

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Remember Corus have just shed 3500 staff, so that will have had a huge effect on the number of steel trains in South Wales and the North East, the 60s stomping ground.
 

The_Rail_WAy

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Remember Corus have just shed 3500 staff, so that will have had a huge effect on the number of steel trains in South Wales and the North East, the 60s stomping ground.

Yeah as I mentioned earlier all the industries that the 60;s rely on such as pertroleum, steel, stone etc have all been hit hard by the recession (sick of the term 'credit crunch') and with the 68's comeing in next year and a load of spare 66's I would'nt expect to see many around.
 

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Yeah as I mentioned earlier all the industries that the 60;s rely on such as pertroleum, steel, stone etc have all been hit hard by the recession (sick of the term 'credit crunch') and with the 68's comeing in next year and a load of spare 66's I would'nt expect to see many around.

Yeah but considering the 68's are for FL it will hardly effect the 60's.
 

The_Rail_WAy

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They're supposed to come back end of 2009, but I suppose in heinisight theres a good enough chance that will be delayed into 2010.
 
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Examples now down to 15 examples with the storage of 60048 & 60074. 60011 is expected to be stood down in the next few days. It appears to be the end guys, time to step up the preservation movement!
 
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