Monthly Pass Ware - Stratford (Greater Anglia)

[Max 1986]

Hi First time poster can anybody clear up the following or can confirm its correct.

I was travelling from Ware - Stratford on any permitted route for £15.20 id go through liverpool street and get on a train back out or the underground because the ticket had the maltese cross.

Yesterday i got a monthly travel ticket from Ware - Stratford via any permitted route for £283.80. This is the ticket i was advised to get but LU staff will stop you from getting on the underground with this ticket. Why?

Pricing the route on a 20 day working month on prices from national rail website this is what you get:

Daily Ticket with Underground: £15.20 *5 = £76 Weekly x 4 = £304 monthly
Weekly Ticket with underground: £90.40 x 4 = £361.60 monthly
Monthly with Underground: £347.20 Monthly

Turns out buying daily tickets are infact cheaper eben though they advertise that season tickets are.

Just to add to the confusion an anytime return ticket to Liverpool Street was priced at £15.70 and an anytime return to Startford via any permitted route was only priced at £15.20 so if you wanted to go Liverpool Street you could get the stratford Ticket and get out at liverpool street as normal saving 50p per day. Its over £100 per year.

I called greater anglia and they advised me that on the monthly ticket i have i am able to use the underground even though there is no maltese cross and they actually informed me that if i buy the Ware to London Terminals monthly ticket via any permitted route at £252.00 then you can use this to travel onto stratford via national rail or underground.

They refunded the £31.00 difference in national rail vouchers.


Also they did state that the price is wrong and the stratford anytime day return would be changed to £15.70 in line with the Liverpool Street one now. Still that is only £314 which is over £30 cheaper per month than what they are trying to charge.


I hope its not to confusing and does anyone have a similar experience on this line or can anyone confirm the above especially around the £252 monthly ticket.

Cheers guys.

 

[Tetchytyke]

You're not comparing like with like.

It depends what you mean by "with Underground".

You need a Travelcard to be able to use the whole of the Underground network. This is £25.60 per day, or £90.40 per week.

If you are just going to Stratford then the fare is £15.20 per day or £73.90 per week. This ticket (if valid via Liverpool Street) is only valid on the Central Line between Liverpool Street and Stratford, and is not valid for entry or exit at any other station. This is because the Central Line and the Abellio line are treated as an "inter-available route".

 

[Max 1986]

Hi Thanks for the reply

I understand your point but how comes when i have the season ticket at £283.80 i cant get through the barriers onto the underground and LU staff wont let me.

Also surely the above ticket is pointless as Greater Anglia confirmed you can travel onwards to Stratford on a Ware - London Terminals monthly season ticket for £252

 

[Paul Kelly]

I understand your point but how comes when i have the season ticket at £283.80 i cant get through the barriers onto the underground and LU staff wont let me.

Bad training perhaps? The interavailability between Liverpool Street and Stratford is a very long-standing arrangement.

Also surely the above ticket is pointless as Greater Anglia confirmed you can travel onwards to Stratford on a Ware - London Terminals monthly season ticket for £252

That is correct, but it is probably easier to think of it as travelling back towards Ware, not as travelling onwards from Liverpool Street!

This is because a season ticket allows unlimited travel in either direction over all permitted routes (and Greater Anglia train from Ware to Stratford [changing somewhere like Broxbourne], followed by either Greater Anglia or London Underground to Liverpool Street, is a permitted route from Ware to Liverpool Street). You couldn't do this on a Day Return ticket from Ware to London Terminals; its validity would expire when you reached Liverpool Street.

Edit to add: you could do it actually, but you would technically be starting your return journey immediately upon arrival at Liverpool Street, and then breaking it at Stratford. When you resumed at Stratford again you would then need to return to Ware on the direct train from Stratford to Broxbourne, and not double back via Liverpool Street. Because a monthly season ticket allows unlimited travel in either direction it removes this complication.

 

[Max 1986]

Thanks that does make sense now.