Monday 4th January 2016 - Rail Chaos/Meltdown predicted

[PrinceBishop]

I suppose this is why most of the Country is so rude ! It DOES NOT HURT TO SAY THANKYOU! its just common decency, When I take a parcel from the Postie I say thankyou, or in a shop I say thankyou, but they are all being 'paid' ! in fact I find it quite annoying and simply bad manners when I put the effort in, and my Manager does not say 'Thankyou' !

I think I dealt with this point in a subsequent post to the one you've quoted. If you're interested see above.

 

[6Gman]

Anyway.... The Guardian is up to its usual slanderous reporting, this time about rail fare rises. Although to be fair they are right! Corbyn is calling for renationalisation which some people think is the be all and end all solution while others think that is the worst possible answer.


http://www.theguardian.com/money/20...r-staggering-rail-fare-rises?CMP=share_btn_tw

I note that the biggest increase they can find is an annual ticket between "Thame Bridge Parkway" (sic) and Nuneaton. Wonder how many of those get sold each year?

 

[Andrewlong]

I note that the biggest increase they can find is an annual ticket between "Thame Bridge Parkway" (sic) and Nuneaton. Wonder how many of those get sold each year?

They do quote commuting from Birmingham New Street to London now costs over £10k per year - to which I would comment that if you paying that out of your own pocket you should be factoring in annual inflation increases.

 

[hounddog]

Anyway.... The Guardian is up to its usual slanderous reporting, this time about rail fare rises. Although to be fair they are right!

If they're right how can it be libellous (not slanderous)?

 

[Amberley54]

On my commute into Waterloo on a weekday I'm more often than not a hard pressed commuter!

On a serious note if infrastructure renewal projects carried out over Christmas were finished on time the media wouldn't have half the ammunition that they were gifted last Christmas. Finsbury Park anyone? The media publish stories about over running projects because its that kind of thing that attracts people's


For what its worth I can't stand the Daily Mail however I think its worth pointing out that its the 2nd best selling daily paper after the Sun so it must be doing something right!

The Scum has Pandered to the lowest common denominator for years under Murdoch. He Belatedly realised that readers could get their daily dose of naked breast off the internet (especially via rival Desmond's subscription porn channels) so he moved on to migrant and minority bashing. Can't wait for the front page apology he has been ordered to make on that issue by the regulator.

Whilst the hate mail blames all our woes on immigrants, trade unionists and the crypto-communists embedded in the public sector. Therefore it hasn't moved on in the 75 years since it praised a certain inter-war German politician that also made a point of blaming all his country's woes on communists, ethnic minorities and trade unionists.

 

[najaB]

Therefore it hasn't moved on in the 75 years since it praised a certain inter-war German politician that also made a point of blaming all his country's woes on communists, ethnic minorities and trade unionists.

Inter-war German politician, who are you on abou..... Wait a minute!

 

[backontrack]

We should play bingo!

The RailUK Forums Sighing Game
When you read these words, sigh heavily!

'Slammed'

'Rail bosses'

'Admit'

'Misery'

'Furious'

'Crush'

'Fiasco'

'Meltdown'

'Unacceptable'

'Thousands of passengers...'

'...one in 3/5/7 journeys...'

'Chelsea, 21, from Southend, says...'

'They should have...'

'i cant get home becuz u CANCELLED the train *angry emoji*'

'*A relatively famous person* said...'

'Thousands took to social media/twitter/facebook to say...'

 

[miami]

The BBC is protected by its license fee

The BBC has had a £1bn cut in it's revenue in the period 2010-2020 (£250m to fund the world service, £600m cost of funding free TV licence fees for over-75s, £150m for funding broadband, £125m for S4C and BBC Monitoring etc), plus a reduced income (not only a freeze on the license fee, but I was close to not bothering renewing my license this year as I very rarely watch live TV, I'm sure others who are more concerned by the £2.80 a week have given up watching live TV completely)
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For what its worth I can't stand the Daily Mail however I think its worth pointing out that its the 2nd best selling daily paper after the Sun so it must be doing something right!

Pandering to people's fears. Telling them it's OK to have their base prejudices, while shifting the Overton Window to the "disgusting" end.
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They do quote commuting from Birmingham New Street to London now costs over £10k per year - to which I would comment that if you paying that out of your own pocket you should be factoring in annual inflation increases.

Surely if you're season ticket is £10k, £5k or £2.5k you'd have to keep in mind inflation. Most annual ticket holders will have bought before christmas anyway, thus this year's rise won't apply until next year.

At least Birmingham have competition - Virgin, Chiltern and LM.
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Inter-war German politician, who are you on abou..... Wait a minute!

Yup, Otto Wels

 

[HowardGWR]

Inter-war German politician, who are you on abou..... Wait a minute!

Duke of Windsor?

 

[AM9]

duke of windsor?

like!

 

[Class 170101]

Surely if you're season ticket is £10k, £5k or £2.5k you'd have to keep in mind inflation. Most annual ticket holders will have bought before christmas anyway, thus this year's rise won't apply until next year.

I suggest we get rid of season tickets given the negative publicity every year and make people buy daily tickets - it would get the railway more income and doubtless reduce the subsidy and satisfy the public :roll:

Perhaps then they might appreciate the value of their season ticket

 

[PrinceBishop]

The BBC has had a £1bn cut in it's revenue in the period 2010-2020 (£250m to fund the world service, £600m cost of funding free TV licence fees for over-75s, £150m for funding broadband, £125m for S4C and BBC Monitoring etc), plus a reduced income (not only a freeze on the license fee, but I was close to not bothering renewing my license this year as I very rarely watch live TV, I'm sure others who are more concerned by the £2.80 a week have given up watching live TV completely)

Well perhaps in time the BBC will be forced to get rid of its dedicated transport correspondents as well. The BBC still has many times the funding that none publicly funded news gathering organisations have, license fee cut or no license fee cut.

 

[Antman]

The Scum has Pandered to the lowest common denominator for years under Murdoch. He Belatedly realised that readers could get their daily dose of naked breast off the internet (especially via rival Desmond's subscription porn channels) so he moved on to migrant and minority bashing. Can't wait for the front page apology he has been ordered to make on that issue by the regulator.

Whilst the hate mail blames all our woes on immigrants, trade unionists and the crypto-communists embedded in the public sector. Therefore it hasn't moved on in the 75 years since it praised a certain inter-war German politician that also made a point of blaming all his country's woes on communists, ethnic minorities and trade unionists.

I don't buy either of these papers but this vitriol and bile is pretty pathetic quite honestly

 

[najaB]

Well perhaps in time the BBC will be forced to get rid of its dedicated transport correspondents as well. The BBC still has many times the funding that none publicly funded news gathering organisations have, license fee cut or no license fee cut.

Don't forget that in return for the licence fee the BBC also has obligations that the other organisations do not and doesn't receive any revenue through advertising unlike everyone else.

 

[Class 170101]

Don't forget that in return for the licence fee the BBC also has obligations that the other organisations do not and doesn't receive any revenue through advertising unlike everyone else.

I would happily see some advertising on BBC during certain times or for certain programmes. eg Peak time slots and for the major sports if it meant more sport on the BBC rather than having to buy a subscription.

Not sure what this has to do with Railways and Monday 4 January mind.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Inter-war German politician, who are you on abou..... Wait a minute!

I like this game, but it should really be on the Quizzes and Games forum.

Still, I will have a go.....Joseph Goebbels.

 

[HowardGWR]

I like this game, but it should really be on the Quizzes and Games forum.

Still, I will have a go.....Joseph Goebbels.

Good one Paul, --but, he just didn't have the balls I'm afraid.

 

[PrinceBishop]

Don't forget that in return for the licence fee the BBC also has obligations that the other organisations do not and doesn't receive any revenue through advertising unlike everyone else.

I haven't forgotten. Though even taking this into account it still has far more resources for news gathering than those not funded by the license fee. I didn't mean for this to become an argument about the BBC vs. the rest of the media though. Simply that all media organisations (including the BBC) will be stretched to employ specialists in given subject areas. Most already are. The quality of reporting on things such as the railways has therefore declined. Not a good thing but that's the way it is unfortunately.

 

[jon0844]

I would happily see some advertising on BBC during certain times or for certain programmes. eg Peak time slots and for the major sports if it meant more sport on the BBC rather than having to buy a subscription.

Not sure what this has to do with Railways and Monday 4 January mind.

The commercial channels (like ITV) would love that. They're struggling enough as it is.

 

[Ships]

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis.

Mark Corrigan speaker of truth....

 

[backontrack]

Inter-war German politician, who are you on abou..... Wait a minute!

Von Ribbentrop?

 

[WatcherZero]

Was Hitler, the Daily Mail under its owner Lord Rothermere supported Hitler, Mussolini and Mosley during 1933/34 until the violence carried out by fascists became hard to defend. The paper continued to oppose Jewish refugees coming to Britain from Germany throughout the 30's calling it 'A problem we have often pointed out'.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Good one Paul, --but, he just didn't have the balls I'm afraid.

Herr Godwin?

 

[me123]

Here you go, courtesy of our favourite paper, right on cue.

Commuters spend SIX times more of their wages on rail fares than the Italians - The Daily Mail.
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The paper continued to oppose Jewish refugees coming to Britain from Germany throughout the 30's calling it 'A problem we have often pointed out'.

Some things never change...

 

[Antman]

If it's ok to mention railways in this thread there are signal problems at Purley, whether they are connected to the engineering work that was completed on time I don't know? Also signal problems at Hastings.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

BBC Breakfast are at it this morning. As part of a series about the struggles getting to work Chorley to Manchester was compared to a commute to berlin. Packed out on a 156 doesnt seem to compare with what looked like a half full bombardier tram and with half the equivalent fare. Why? The bbc asks, i can answer that! UK Govt put in 5bn into uk's private railways GDR pay in to state owned DB 10bn!

 

[ExRes]

If it's ok to mention railways in this thread there are signal problems at Purley, whether they are connected to the engineering work that was completed on time I don't know? Also signal problems at Hastings.

How dare you take this thread off at such a ridiculous tangent ...........

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Anyway.... The Guardian is up to its usual slanderous reporting, this time about rail fare rises. Although to be fair they are right! Corbyn is calling for renationalisation which some people think is the be all and end all solution while others think that is the worst possible answer.
http://www.theguardian.com/money/20...r-staggering-rail-fare-rises?CMP=share_btn_tw

That's not a piece about railways, it's about politics (both sides quoted).
It was also written by the Press Association, not a Guardian staffer.
They are usually one of the fairest papers with good industry contacts.

 

[HowardGWR]

If it's ok to mention railways in this thread there are signal problems at Purley, whether they are connected to the engineering work that was completed on time I don't know? Also signal problems at Hastings.

See other thread. This one is about moaning newspapers and will inevitably descend into Godwinesque comments, which of course, I have studiously avoided. Actually, they are very slow off the mark this morning, probably new year office parties not recovered from yet (or political editors sunning in Barbados more probably).

Update I notice that the problems north of Carlisle have not been awoken to in any great degree, for instance. I had expected 'WCML meltdown' but nothing.

 

[DarloRich]

seemed fine this morning. Next!