Misuse of Oyster card

[sdf]

Want to know few infos on behalf of someone.

Person got caught using someone else’s oyster card.
Received TfL verification letter and submitted mitigation evidence.
Few months later received SJP notice with conviction on Tfl Bylaws 17(1) with option to plead guilty or not guilty.
Completed form online, Pleaded guilty and chose option NOT to attend court.
Few days later received letter to attend Court.
Attended court and during meeting with TfL prosecutor, person has been told the case will be withdrawn and Formal Warning will be issued for this instance, due to mitigation circumstance.
Prosecutor stated Formal Warning Letter will be sent to the home address.
As case was withdrawn on the day; No hearing occurred, hence No Fine was issued.

1) Anyone knows how many days it takes to receive Warning letter?
It’s been 2weeks+ since court date.

2) Is the person convicted under TfL Bylaws 17(1), as mentioned in the SJP notice, even though no fine has been issued?

 

[JBuchananGB]

As the case was withdrawn, the person has not been convicted. Don't know how long it takes to receive Warning letter. I suggest that, if they have no written evidence that this is to take place, they give it a couple more weeks and write to TfL (address on verification letter) and ask for written confirmation of the situation.

 

[Titfield]

Yes I would think a formal warning notice would be sent within 2 weeks or so.

Whilst there may be some additional information attached to the formal warning letter, it is self evident that should the person use someone else's oyster card in the future then the matter would proceed to court for prosecution.

Warning letters are, on the basis of what we see on this forum, quite rare so the OP should count themselves fortunate that the case has been withdrawn.

 

[sdf]

As the case was withdrawn, the person has not been convicted. Don't know how long it takes to receive Warning letter. I suggest that, if they have no written evidence that this is to take place, they give it a couple more weeks and write to TfL (address on verification letter) and ask for written confirmation of the situation.

Will TfL be aware that this person went to court and their case was withdrawn?
This is because if the OP contacts TfL, they do not have any documents as supporting evidence to show TfL that their case was withdrawn on the day of court.
Hence, could TfL say they have no records of formal warning to be issued on their system?
This is because it has been 3 weeks and the person has not received anything yet. So are slightly worried.

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Yes I would think a formal warning notice would be sent within 2 weeks or so.

Whilst there may be some additional information attached to the formal warning letter, it is self evident that should the person use someone else's oyster card in the future then the matter would proceed to court for prosecution.

Warning letters are, on the basis of what we see on this forum, quite rare so the OP should count themselves fortunate that the case has been

Does this mean, receiving a SJP notice does not classify being officially convicted? Until a fine is being imposed?

 

[Titfield]

A conviction only takes place when the case has been before a Magistrate or Judge and either a guilty plea has been accepted and recorded or you have been found guilty and the decision recorded.

The issuing of an SJP is an administrative action prior to the case being decided.

It is TfL who have withdrawn the case and will issue the warning instead. The court has no involvement when a case has been withdrawn other than to record it was withdrawn.