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burns20

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Yesterday I travelled on the 1658 Preston to Warrington Bank Quay service to change onto the 1726 ATW Warrington Bank Quay to Chester for an appointment at Chester Station at 6pm

The 1658 was due into WBQ at 1720 but was 9 mins late therefore missing connection.

I was advised by Preston Booking Office to split my ticket at WBQ to save money.

I returned straight back to Preston having not used the WBQ - CTR Day Return

Am I entitled to a refund?
 
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I would say not, as the ticket is £9.10, so the refund administration fee of £10 exceeds the cost of the ticket.

Possibly if you had handed in the WBR-CTR tickets in straight away to the booking office at WBQ you may have gotten a refund under NRCoC 26 (a).
 

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I went to the booking office at Bank Quay and she told me that Preston have to refund it but the booking office seems to shut early these days at Preston
 

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Could always write in to Virgin Trains and ask, mentioning everything you've posted; if they say no, all you've lost is the cost of a stamp (they won't say you owe them the extra 90p for the rest of the admin fee!)
 

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If the ticket(s) were sold as a means of achieving just one return journey then they should be treated as a single contract*.
It appears that it was the delay which rendered the tickets unusable.
The Conditions allow for a refund, and the refund is dependent on the claim being made at the time of travel (if it is to avoid the possible "administrative charge (not exceeding £10)" ). However, if that was not possible, because the booking office was shut, then I believe that your claim should still be honoured if you present the tickets today.
26. Refunds on tickets that have not been used.
If you decide not to use a ticket (other than a Season Ticket - see Condition 36) to make all or part of your intended journey, then:
- (a) if the train you intended to use is cancelled, delayed or your reservation will not be honoured, you decide not to travel and at that time you return the unused ticket to any ticket office, the Train Company responsible for that ticket office will, if it is in a position to do so, give you an immediate full refund as shown in Condition 27.

*Although the term "journey" is not clearly defined, this wording specifically allows for fragmented journeys by the phrase "all or part of your intended journey" and yet still assures you of a "full refund" for the "tickets that have not been used".

For completeness:
- (b) if paragraph (a) does not apply and the ticket has been bought from a Train
Company’s ticket office (or a self-service machine) and you return your ticket at
any Train Company’s ticket office no later than 28 days after the expiry of the
ticket’s validity, you will receive a refund (subject to the notes below); or
- (c) if paragraph (a) does not apply, the ticket has been bought from a Train
Company’s telesales office or a Train Company’s internet website and you
return the ticket to an address notified by that Train Company no later than
28 days after the expiry of the ticket’s validity, you will receive a refund
(subject to the notes below); or
- (d) if paragraph (a) does not apply and the ticket has been bought from a travel agent,
if you return the ticket to that agent no later than 28 days after the expiry of the
ticket’s validity, you will receive a refund (subject to the notes below).

Notes:
(i) The amount of the refund will normally take into account any use you have made
of the ticket and in some circumstances no refund will be paid.
(ii) In the case of a refund made under (b), (c), or (d) above, you may have to pay a
reasonable administrative charge (not exceeding £10).
(iii) Your right to receive a refund of all or part of the price paid may be restricted
in the case of some types of reduced and discounted fare tickets, for example,
those with an advance purchase requirement. These rights are set out in the
notices and other publications of the relevant Train Companies.
(iv) In the case of a refund under (b), (c), or (d) above, you will not receive an
immediate refund but your refund application will be processed as soon as
reasonably practicable.
(v) In the case of an Electronic Ticket, the refund process may require you to allow
the person making the refund to delete the stored ticket data or to demonstrate to
that person that you have done so in accordance with the conditions of that ticket.
 
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