Miliband the milkman

[strange6]

I see our Ed has been milking today for all it's political worth! Interesting that he and his party have not come out and said what they would cut or what taxes they would increase, eventually! The little bit of encouragement i got from the act though was that he didn't exactly get a standing ovation or wild, out of control cheers so i think most of the crowd could see what he was playing at. And all credit to the TUC organisers - they hid his strings very well

 

[WatcherZero]

Good on him for going after the Government tried to stop him attending.

 

[SS4]

Of course if he hadn't gone the Tories would have bollocked him for being out of touch with his TUC brothers.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

At least Labour want to stand up for the working man rather than the Coalition's "I'm alright Jack" cuts. Why shouldn't the TUC have a say in what is/was a party formed to represent them?

Edit: He was vague yes, but that's his prerogative as Leader of the Opposition, Cameron would have done the same (and could well of done if Clegg hadn't sold his party's future for power). BY the same I mean if he was in London instead living it up unaffected by cuts.

 

[strange6]

Good on him for going after the Government tried to stop him attending.

They didn't try to stop him, they just viewed their opinion that he shouldn't go. And it's all very well saying that the government are cutting too much, too quickly when you yourself haven't said one word about what you would do specifically. Personally, i would say to him, 'OK, the two Ed's, there's the key to No 10 - go and sort out your own mess if you think it's so f'ing easy'
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Of course if he hadn't gone the Tories would have bollocked him for being out of touch with his TUC brothers.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

At least Labour want to stand up for the working man rather than the Coalition's "I'm alright Jack" cuts. Why shouldn't the TUC have a say in what is/was a party formed to represent them?

Edit: He was vague yes, but that's his prerogative as Leader of the Opposition, Cameron would have done the same (and could well of done if Clegg hadn't sold his party's future for power). BY the same I mean if he was in London instead living it up unaffected by cuts.

Labour stand up for the working man with what they did to the working man's pensions. Don't make me laugh! PS Why Schrodinger's cat for your avatar?

 

[SS4]

They didn't try to stop him, they just viewed their opinion that he shouldn't go. And it's all very well saying that the government are cutting too much, too quickly when you yourself haven't said one would about what you would do specifically. Personally, i would say to him, 'OK, the two Ed's, there's the key to No 10 - go and sort out your own mess if you think it's so f'ing easy'
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Labour stand up for the working man with what they did to the working man's pensions. Don't make me laugh!

Let me rephrase, they stand up for the working man more than any other party.

 

[strange6]

Let me rephrase, they stand up for the working man more than any other party.

not to mention the couch potato, the criminal and the illegal immigrant

 

[Ivo]

Labour stand up for the working man with what they did to the working man's pensions. Don't make me laugh!

Would it not be correct to say that most at Labour, admittedly like the Tories, are not working (or even middle) class themselves? And that they would have attended the likes of Harrow or Eton, Cambridge or Oxford, or indeed private institutions? Does this not make them out-of-touch with those whom they claim to represent the most?

 

[strange6]

Would it not be correct to say that most at Labour, admittedly like the Tories, are not working (or even middle) class themselves? And that they would have attended the likes of Harrow or Eton, Cambridge or Oxford, or indeed private institutions? Does this not make them out-of-touch with those whom they claim to represent the most?

Yeah, just look at their shadow cabinet. Still, I'm not going to post anymore in this thread. I've made my point. One last thing though; I wouldn't trust any politician with anything! See ya

 

[SS4]

not to mention the couch potato, the criminal and the illegal immigrant

Define couch potato? I hope it's not being used as a synonym of unemployed. Criminals, I agree with you and illegal immigrants seems to be a case of correlation = causation against a group who cannot reasonably speak out.

I didn't see the video so cannot comment yet if Ed Milliband is, as you say, controlled by the TUC then you can look at their policies which, iirc, hinge on fairness for all

But the difficulty that we have as the government inheriting a terrible economic mess is that we have to take steps to bring the public finances back into balance,"

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That's the Coalition's only justification for their economic policy!
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Would it not be correct to say that most at Labour, admittedly like the Tories, are not working (or even middle) class themselves? And that they would have attended the likes of Harrow or Eton, Cambridge or Oxford, or indeed private institutions? Does this not make them out-of-touch with those whom they claim to represent the most?

Yes, unfortunately politics today seems to be the least objectionable candidate.

Yeah, just look at their shadow cabinet. Still, I'm not going to post anymore in this thread. I've made my point. One last thing though; I wouldn't trust any politician with anything! See ya

I agree, time for me to bale out of this thread too

 

[142094]

I'm sure if Labour had won the election, the Tories would have been equally as vague about what cuts they'd have brought in. At the end of the day it is all politics. No matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in. Basically the same people just with different coloured ties.

 

[strange6]

I'm sure if Labour had won the election, the Tories would have been equally as vague about what cuts they'd have brought in. At the end of the day it is all politics. No matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in. Basically the same people just with different coloured ties.

Couldn't agree with you more there - spot on!

 

[me123]

I wasn't really listening to him, but I vaguely remember he was getting dangerously close to comparing himself with Martin Luther King...

 

[strange6]

I wasn't really listening to him, but I vaguely remember he was getting dangerously close to comparing himself with Martin Luther King...

There are two types of people in the world my friend - Do'ers and talkers. The do'ers always make the talkers look good. Politicians, and senior management in general, are more often than not, talkers. nuff said

 

[SS4]

There are two types of people in the world my friend - Do'ers and talkers. The do'ers always make the talkers look good. Politicians, and senior management in general, are more often than not, talkers. nuff said

Agreed, they're full of negative energy, lots of inertia and everyone has to stay in orbit. The conclusion? Management and politicians are anti-nuclei!

(yes I know it's a tenuous physics joke but it's the best I could come up with )

 

[strange6]

Agreed, they're full of negative energy, lots of inertia and everyone has to stay in orbit. The conclusion? Management and politicians are anti-nuclei!

(yes I know it's a tenuous physics joke but it's the best I could come up with )

lol I would compare them to that well know quantum mechanical theory of Heisenburg's uncertainty principle in that you know where the politicians are at any one time, but you just don't know what the f*** they're talking about