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Midland Metro extension to Wolverhampton rail station

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So Centro's consultation is open (until May 31) for the Wolverhampton city centre extension of the Metro.
What are we proposing to do and why

We are proposing an extension to the Midland Metro in Wolverhampton as part of our plans for network expansion. This route will support major regeneration in the city centre and bring transport improvements to the area.

Midland Metro is currently being extended at the Birmingham end of the route. In February 2012 work started on the £128 million Midland Metro extension from Snow Hill to the redeveloping New Street station. We are also extending the depot at Wednesbury to accommodate the 20 new trams that will also be provided as part of this project.



The new trams will be bigger and capable of carrying over 200 people, these will come into service on the existing route between Wolverhampton and Snow Hill during 2014 and go to New Street station when the extension opens in 2015.

The extension in Wolverhampton City Centre will link into the existing network and its planned extensions to Black Country and High Speed 2 station - as well as providing a convenient interchange with the bus station and a newly developed Wolverhampton rail station.

We would like your views on our proposed route along Piper's Row to the Rail station.

The plan is to divert trams from Bilston Street onto Piper's Row, with a stop outside the bus station, and then along Railway Drive to a new terminus between the station and the parking structure. Turnback will extend along the canal. Although the plan seems to be to keep St George open as a secondary terminus for some of the day.
 
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The previoius plan was for a one-way loop - trams from the railway station would have run as shown but those going the other way would have gone via St George's and streets further west to join the alignment at a triangle near the Britannia Hotel and continue to the railway station or return towards Birmingham.

The turnback siding is also the start of the projected 5Ws route which would do a big loop to Wednesbury via Walsall (and three other places beginning with W). That's unlikely to happen any time soon.
 

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So Centro's consultation is open (until May 31) for the Wolverhampton city centre extension of the Metro.


The plan is to divert trams from Bilston Street onto Piper's Row, with a stop outside the bus station, and then along Railway Drive to a new terminus between the station and the parking structure. Turnback will extend along the canal. Although the plan seems to be to keep St George open as a secondary terminus for some of the day.

Will this be similar in structural nature (but discounting the platform heights) to the recently-opened Manchester Metrolink "Rochdale Railway Station" stop very near to the heavy rail railway station at Rochdale ?
 

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Looks to be a non island platform just outside the station so similar in that respect, then continues for a ways on its own alignment to provide a turnback. From the map it looks to be where the current surface car park is, marked as 'buildings to be demolished', it then continues through the decrepit buildings on Corn Hill also marked as to be demolished.

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Personally I cant see the point in keeping the existing stop open if it doesnt have a regular service unless their planning Police Specials :)
 

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St George is further in to the city centre than Piper's Row so is more convenient for the shops and such, although not by all that much. I don't think anyone would really miss it if it went.
 

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If they use it regularly it probably needs a Mosley Street type information display to tell people where the next tram is going from.
 

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Lack of City Centre destinations

£15m Wolverhampton Metro extension to the Bus & Rail Station, with two years of road works and inconvenience? Why are we wasting money on this? Can someone please explain?

£5m can pay for 10 UK built electric minibus and the facilities required to operate a city centre service every 5-10 mins during the working day.

This City Centre bus link – will be a showcase route showing Wolverhampton is commited to Zero Carbon emissions. And will link the Rail & Bus Stations to Market Street(Dudley Street shops), Art Gallery, Mander Centre, Beatties, Markets and the Wulfrun Centre. Places people actually want to go. And unlike the trams, the route can be changed to meet demand without having to spend millions of pounds in consultation and months/years digging up the streets.


Trains not Trams

The Metro carries 4.7 to 4.9m passengers a year 75% are former bus users. The last time 5m were carried was back in 2005/6. There has been an increase in passengers to 4.9m in recent years which coincides with WBA promotion to Premier League and the truncation of the 79 bus route linking Wolverhampton to Birmingham, meaning The Metro is the only direct route for this corridor. The average passenger journey is 6.5miles on a line that as 12.5 miles long.

The Metro takes you to places that could be reached far quicker and cheaper if it were by heavy rail.
Wolverhampton High Level, Priestfield, Bilston Central, Moxley, Wednesbury Parkway, Dudley Street Guns Village, West Bromwich Central, The Hawthorns, Soho and Winson Green, Jewellery Quarter, Birmingham Snow Hill.

Such a line would offer the following services
  • London Midland Locals/Semi fast: Shrewsbury > Wolverhampton > Snow Hill > Stratford/Leamington.
  • X-County: Manchester > Wolverhampton > West Brom > Snow Hill > Reading.
  • Chiltern: Marylebone > Snow Hill > West Brom > Wolverhampton > Shrewsbury.
This would give Virgin competition on Euston services – bringing down fares. In 1983 (30 years ago) BR Wolves>Euston services were only 6mins slower than what Virgin can manage today.


Centro Philosophy

Case example. In an ideal world, travelling between Telford and Bilston could be achieved using a local service from Shrewsbury to Snow Hill. The journey from Wolverhampton to Bilston Central would be 5mins and 30secs. On leaving Wolverhampton, the train travels along the Stour Valley (quadrupled) to a new link line, over the Steel Terminal, to former Didcot & Chester formation, then down a 1 in 60 gradient, under Bilston Road, into Preistfield Station.

But Centro say: Why would you want a direct rail service to Bilston from Telford – when you have The Metro, which is far more convent. Look, all you have to do is get off your train from Telford to New Street at Wolverhampton, walk 260m, utilising the nice new footbridge which allows you to climb three flights of stairs for a beautiful view of Wolverhampton (there is a lift if you want to wait for it) to the new tram stop we are building outside the station. Once at the tram stop you only have to wait up to 6mins for a lovely shiny new Spanish built tram to whisk you away to Bilston in 9mins time. Total journey time from alighting your train at Wolverhampton Interchange : 13 to 19 mins. What could be simpler than that? Transport integration at its best!

But Centro, the train from Telford, which was built in Derby, UK, could have been a DIRECT service to Snow Hill, and would arrive at Bilston in 5mins after first calling at Priestfield. No need to get off the train at Wolverhampton. Do people really want to climb over a footbridge into the sky and wait 6mins for a tram? When they could be where they want to be - in Bilston - in a tad over 5mins by rail? Centro, why are you making our lives difficult? Is there a through ticket from Telford to Bilston Central Metro stop?

Ah, say Centro, but that’s why we need this tram link, because we want to run Tram Trains to Walsall joining the railway at Heath Town Junction. Trams from Walsall to New Street in Brum – just think of that! Rapid Transit on par to Manchester!

So Centro, you want to convert 106 miles of local heavy rail services to Tram Train? The majority of the WM rail network, unlike that in Greater Manchester, is actually important to GB not just the WM. Why not just convert 12.5 miles of Light Rail to Heavy Rail and link it in with the existing 106 route miles – isn’t that easier, more convenient, thus creating more travel opportunities to more destinations - even outside the WM? I thought that was the whole point of Centro's West Midlands Local Transport Plan v3: to create new transport links to help regenerate the local economy? With the link in place I could catch a train DIRECT from Wolverhampton to Solihull, Leamington even Marylebone. Use rail for the big hops, buses for the short hops. Why are you trying to make The Metro do everything – forcing passengers to waste more time and money than necessary?


The Future = Depressing

With Line One converted to heavy rail this will provide more opportunities to travel to/from this area using public transport. And, that’s only HALF the story. Just think of all the possibilities that can be achieved with freight (once this corridor has been converted to heavy rail) and the businesses that could be attracted to the brown field sites that festoon this road congested area.

But no, instead we have this transport cancer called The Metro. Sitting there, going nowhere, eating money, stopping future development in rail passenger/freight services that are not just important to the WM, but also to the wider country too.
 

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I agree with everything you've said. The Metro should never have been started unless it was going to be a proper network from the off. These extensions at each end are utterly pointless.
 
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