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Microsoft Powerpoint

Microsoft Powerpoint

  • Love it (weird person)

    Votes: 22 61.1%
  • Hate it (I cant blame you)

    Votes: 14 38.9%

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43021HST

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Just had a string of Sociology lessons which consist of what I call 'Death by Powerpoint' in which you take notes for what seems like hours from a powerpoint. I find powerpint sucks the life out of you as your brain gets flooded with bland backgrounds, stupid flashy slide transitions and bullet points. Boring, boring boring.

Whats RUKs views on Powerpoint?
Love it or hate it?
 
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It's a very useful tool. So long as you can memorise what you need to say there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. What is wrong with PPT is the people who put absolutely everything they need to say on any given slide, and or constantly looks at notes. In other words, the only fault with PPT is those who use it.
 

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I find them more useful at college than I did at secondary school. They were used way too much at the latter. Quite useful now though, great to make notes off.
 

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In schools/colleges/higher education, they're a lot clearer than those silly interactive boards where teaching staff write using the dreaded 'pen', which in many cases makes the handwriting illegible!
 

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I find them quite useful. Wish our one lecturer used them - instead, she just talks for an hour, writing random names on the board, and if you've not been listening, you're stuffed.

Is that A-level sociology you're doing? When I did it, my sociology teacher was a powerpoint fan too!
 

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Lots of people here have started using 'Prezi' recently which is a bit more whizzy!

Sat through a presentation earlier today where all the slides were at a 40 degree angle; presumably supposed to look cool but I had a sore neck at the end of it.
 

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I'm with Ivo on this one. A few pointers to poor PP users:

- It's an aid, not a script.

- No one likes looking at paragraphs of size 8 gaudily coloured Comic Sans.

- Everyone's already seen the funny video you've put in it.

- If you show fear, the projector won't work.

The NMT has graduated to a Prezi for it's on board presentation to visitors. It's....interesting.
 

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I'd say it's 30% the layout of the Powerpoint, 10% the words on the Powerpoint and the speaker, 60% the body language/attire of the speaker to how effective a presentation is. If you cannot do a presentation without a computer then you're stuffed from day one but it is a very good aid. I vote love it.
 

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To be honest, mine doubles up as my notes and I couldn't do a presentation without those.
 

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Pretty much the same as Ivo and Hydro, I have to do a fair number of presentations and lessons, with a number of different tools available.

When I first started teaching I had nothing but handouts or maps, and a board with markers, then graduated to powerpoint, then back to slides on an overhead. But I can present or teach with or without any of these.

When i do use powerpoint, it depends on what I'm doing, if I'm doing a presentation to a prospective employer, I put more on it than I would if I where teaching. Because it gives them somethign pretty to look at other than my face. Where as when I'm teaching, the're a tool to display key points or workings, the same as what I would write up in chalk. And they should be paying attention to me, not the handouts, and not the powerpoint, but me. So I give detailed notes around key points, and illustrate some of these on the overheads, but they are expected to take their own enhancements to the notes. Where as employers I need to lay it on, because I'd be presenting to customers or contractors, and they like a little bit more. But never go up to the level of Death by Powerpoint by using it as a script. I never script presentations or lectures, it doesn't work.
 

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At work, the biggest problems are:

  • Just reading out what's on the slides and no more (we can read you know, what we want is for you to expand on the bullet points!)
  • Going to the other extreme and putting loads of small text which is impossible to read from the screen, or even in Netmeeting or Webex
  • Talking facing the screen (as you read out your slide!) with your back to the audience
  • Saying you will take questions at the end, then rabbiting on so that there is no time for questions and usually by then all people want to do is get out of there!

Oh and I'll add people who use animations to stop you reading ahead thus dragging things out even longer :(
 

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Oh yes, one does NOT need any animations in power point presentations, why do some idiots feel the need to add them? Is it part of the affliction with shiney things?
 

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To be honest I encourage people to interrupt to ask questions (which sometimes they do if they're particularly interested) as it turns into more of a discussion. I think it makes it a more engaging session.
 

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Depends on what I'm teaching / doing as to weather I will interupt for questions, or hold them until the end of my current set of points, sometimes people ask questions as to the exact tune of what I'm about to say, and that's anoying. Is why some people hold questions for the end. Sometimes I'll stop that sentance and answer, sometimes wait until the end of my current points.
 

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Long time ago I taught as a Cadet Instructor in the ACF, usually Map & Compass skills, Feildcraft and Skill at Arms.

And usually taught with either a chalk / white board, or nothing at all, teaching inside was a luxary most of the time, if I had a board I could do a good lesson. Lately it's mainly University presentations for course assignments etc. Or at Assessment Centres for these graduate jobs that don't exist, aparently, even though I have just got back from one on sunday and have another next Monday, then another at the end of Feb, and am still awaiting the results of three phone interviews... (No grad jobs are there?)

PS: I qualified as a Drill Instructor, but normally ended up teaching Map & Compass because no-one else knew it like I did, short of the IC & OC, 2I/C couldn't even teach it! Skill at Arms was more fun, or at least they thought it would be, until they realised that lesson one is all about safety, and lesson two is nomenclature.
 

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Apparently most of us can be considered a "weird person".

Oh and I'll add people who use animations to stop you reading ahead thus dragging things out even longer :(

Oh yes, one does NOT need any animations in power point presentations, why do some idiots feel the need to add them? Is it part of the affliction with shiney things?

I sometimes use animations. It depends entirely on what kind of presentation it is; if I am conducting one that merely involves providing/dictating streams of data and/or facts then animations are pointless, but in some instances they are a useful addition to the program, such as if attempting to hide an answer or similar. I do not see the point in using any of the fancy stuff such as wheel motions though; fading in is usually more than enough.
 

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Pity you can't see my practice one on "Thameslink 2020", but the file is far too big to upload. It has a nice slide with a circular intro that goes black, then white, and the next slide is entitled "Snow Hill Tunnel".
 

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Oh, and also:

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Powerpoint is a tool. It can either make a presentation pants or it can enhance it depending on what the speaker is trying to say. Using it to put a picture detailing the topic helps as does using it to display graphs and other graphics.

Just for my own interest has anyone been Rickrolled on a presentation :lol:
 

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Its only as good as the person using it. Seen some terrible ones, some consistently! Some some good ones too.

Personally I prefer a few choice phrases or words, a pictorial aid or well illustrated (classy) which I talk around. Typically I spend almost 2 mins talking 'around' a slide.

Additionally I use Keynote which is a brilliant piece of kit.
 

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Generally speaking, if you can't give a good presentation without Powerpoint then using it will not improve things. It is a tool like any other. Those who have learned to use it, enhance their presentations; others simply make theirs worse.

At my former company, we had a monthly "Business Briefing" using Powerpoint slides prepared by a number of people and consolidated into a single file which was then stored on a server. The choice was listening to a departmental manager reading from the slides for ninety minutes or so, or opening the file on one's own PC and spending ten minutes or so reading them oneself - the sales department slides were particularly tedious since the sales director had the impression that the more company logos he included, the more interesting it would be: not to me, it wasn't.

The worst Powerpoint presentation I have ever seen was intended to give some information on a major new IT project. Most of the slides contained factual errors, incomprehensible sentences, or contradictions with other slides. I saved a copy as a horrible reminder. (The project eventually failed, but only after spending millions of pounds.)
 

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The better Powerpoint. No blue screens of death, and can be easily edited with a wipe and a pen.

XD
 

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I have always been told that a PowerPoint slide should ideally contain less than 30 words. Anymore and you're risking people focusing on reading it and not listening to you, or deciding it's boring and doing neither. My lecturers are incredibly variable, so have the idea of using it as a prompt while others just read off it - I know which I prefer, and it isn't the latter.

On Prezi, I recently had to use this for a project. I found it to be a total pain in the backside which offered very little over a PowerPoint for a great deal more effort.
 

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Makes you wonder how I ever managed to get a decent edukashun with these things right through school and university.

They did have the added amusement factor of being able to draw something rude and roll the board backwards before the teacher came in.

We did have one lecturer who got so excited he was actually writing low down behind the lecturer's desk so we couldn't see anything, then he would suddenly move the board up and just carry on!

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Personally I think thata powerpoint should be as condensed as possible, so that when you are furiously checking your notes the night before an exam, you dont have to filter out loads of text of derivations. It should just have the key info it in to remind you of what has been said when you look back on it.
 
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