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Metro line fire and breakdown, Rennes, France

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Eutychus

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Hello everyone! I'm posting here seeking UK railfan expertise on what I think is an unprecedented failure on an automated metro line in Rennes, Brittany.

Rennes metro line B is a Siemens CityVal, the only metro of this kind to be deployed so far anywhere (I understand it has been ordered by Frankfurt aiport and the city of Bangkok) having entered service just over a year ago.

On November 18 2023 there was a fire in an electrical cabinet at the depot which cut the power supply to the line. Over a week later, not only has power not been restored but there is as yet no announcement about when the line might resume service. An announcement about a provisional schedule for that to happen is expected tomorrow.

Article (in French) covering the basics here.

There is some talk that the fire was caused by a circuit breaker not doing its job. There is also talk that the circuit breaker in question should have tripped due to an overcurrent being fed back into the system from an emergency brake applied on a train in operation. To me it seems quite incredible that there should be so little redundancy resulting in a single point of failure. The lack of clearer communication by the transport authority, the operator and the manufacturer also makes me wonder about possible design flaws and their potential implications.

Rennes is one of the smallest cities in the world to have a metro system (let alone two lines) and the traffic and transport infrastructure has been significantly redesigned with the advent of line B. That means it's much harder to move people over to alternative means of transport or provide effective replacement services, resulting in chaos at peak hours and a significant decline in city-centre retail business.

I can find very little discussion out there on French sites and wondered if anyone here might be able to shed light on any of these aspects. Is such a failure unprecedented? What might the contractual implications be? Does anyone have any insights into the technical issues?
 
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I can't help with the technical side, but I agree that having a single point of failure like this does seem a major design flaw. However, it may be that it does have other power supplies but they are the same design and they don't want to use them until they understand the cause of the failure/fire. Unexplained technical issues have definitely closed railways in the past, the most recent example I can think of is the Ottawa LRT
 

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Thanks, that's a useful point of comparison (although of course neither the systems nor the problem are exactly the same).
 

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Going to be closed until at least the 18th December now
 

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Yes; that date is exactly one month after the fire, which suggests to me that they're trying to meet some contractual commitment. The exact cause of the fire is not yet known and the statements at the press conference given yesterday were very carefully worded. We'll see...
 

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Rennes metro line b eventually reopened on December 22, but lasted barely a couple of weeks. It's now down again for an indefinite period of time due to another 'unexplained' emergency braking. The prevailing theory on tech threads is premature failure of the bearings that keep the train on course (unlike other systems, it uses a single central guide rail and runs on tyres on a concrete surface). If these fail, the train can 'derail' (or more properly 'deguide') which results in the emergency brake being applied. There's some concern about what the implications of such a design flaw might be...
 

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Rennes metro line b eventually reopened on December 22, but lasted barely a couple of weeks. It's now down again for an indefinite period of time due to another 'unexplained' emergency braking. The prevailing theory on tech threads is premature failure of the bearings that keep the train on course (unlike other systems, it uses a single central guide rail and runs on tyres on a concrete surface). If these fail, the train can 'derail' (or more properly 'deguide') which results in the emergency brake being applied. There's some concern about what the implications of such a design flaw might be...
Oh dear. I would be interested to know what sort of guarantees the metro company had received from Siemens that their new system would work properly, and what would happen if it is doesn't
 

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I would love to know that too, but so far communication has been virtually non-existent. I'm already wondering what kind of service level agreement might have been in place. The line was out for over a month in November, and there's no set date of return to service this time round yet - all they've said is that it won't be ready when the schools go back on Monday... it's a major artery for one of the Rennes campuses.
 
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