krus_aragon
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Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)
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How come some units are getting overhauls but others are not? I've seen units running around with mint condition bogies. Seems odd to be withdrawing units when there is no firm start date for the 777s.
They are only overhauling 507s now as they are planned to be kept longer than the 508s. IIRC 508120 was the last 508 to be overhauled in November 2021.
Unforgivable if you ask me to let these units go without immediate replacement, but frustratingly predictable.
What will it be hauled by?
Liverpool 507
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Probably a ROG 37 or 57. Last time a rail movement took place from Birkenhead North was with 57312 taking 508110 & 508134 to Craven Arms loop and then on to Newport Docks the following morning.
MR-507508
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Any further update on the move of 508140 to Newport?
I can't see any paths showing for any move on RTT.
diffident
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If they keep scrapping them at this rate, there will be no units left to run a service!
Liam L
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ROG only have the 37s now, 57s back with DRS
warwickshire
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Maybe no path to run them? Possible to many paths used for 67 testing and 197 to plan around? Or most likely the rog drivers are fully booked elsewhere on other duties ie 730 197 testing.
So maybe no spare drivers next week also. For move
Just for clarification, has No 508140 been officially withdrawn, if so on what date please? Strangely I have not seen any other reports of this (possible) withdrawal on other forums or Gen groups also I accept there is always limited information / interest on the Class 507 and 508's units but this is only forum I have noted info on this particular unit. As I do not know the background or sources of some members on here, I am just asking / seeking clarification. Thank You.
MR-507508
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To the best of my knowledge its final working was on Monday 12th September working the 1934 Ormskirk to Liverpool Central, later that evening working ECS to Birkenhead North E.M.U.D. It has spent some time stabled at West Kirby in recent weeks.
508140 was always one of the units destined to be one of the first to be withdrawn (hence being one of the face mask livery units since Sept 2020). As reported previously, 508143 was withdrawn 25th May 2022, last working also on the Ormskirk line (2347 from Liverpool Central to Ormskirk)
adrock1976
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Could someone clarify if the following are still in service or have been scrapped please?
507010
507020 (did this have fire damage a few years ago?)
507031
508104
Those are the only 507/508 I require for haulage.
507010
507020 (did this have fire damage a few years ago?)
507031
508104
Those are the only 507/508 I require for haulage.
All still in service. All recently overhauled too so are pretty safe for the time being. Can't confirm current locations though I'm afraid!
MR-507508
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Yes, all four still in service.
507020 had fire damage (I think early 2018) due to ice related issues/arcing early morning (on Kirkby line if I remember correctly), sorted pretty quickly and back in service again.
adrock1976
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Wezz
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Apparently 140 will leave on Sunday, unsure on what time though
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driver training has begun, so it shouldn't be long until 777 units start entering service.
DJH1971
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Where did you hear that driver training of 777's has started?
Wezz
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The MD himself confirmed that drivers are currently being trained.
jamesst
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Driver training has NOT begun at all
MD of who though? Clearly he has not spoken to members of ASLEF then! NO driver training until agreement has been reached to actually drive the Class 777 including most importantly, method of operation of arrival and departure to / from stations.
Sam 76
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Do we know how far along this is ? If they are still saying this year then an agreement must need to be reached soon to say the least
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In terms of the 507/508’s as well I wonder how long Merseyrail think they can keep running a full service ? Especially if units are now going it seems we will be pretty short very quickly
Wezz
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The 508's will be the first to go as no 508 units are being overhauled now, the 507's are still recieving overhauls for the time being.
As it stands there are enough units to run a full service into next year, Stadler and Merseytravel are aiming to get some 777's into traffic by the end of this year, unsure on exactly what date or month though.
MR-507508
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Paths now on RTT for 508140 movements for scrapping at Newport.
Scheduled to leave Birkenhead North E.M.U.D. Sunday evening at 2255 to Crewe South Yard, then I believe onto Newport Monday morning from there.
Realtime Trains | 0N38 1714 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Birkenhead North E.M.U.D | 09/10/2022
Real-time train running information for 0N38 1714 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Birkenhead North E.M.U.D on 09/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Realtime Trains | 5Q42 2255 Birkenhead North E.M.U.D to Crewe South Yard | 09/10/2022
Real-time train running information for 5Q42 2255 departure from Birkenhead North E.M.U.D to Crewe South Yard on 09/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
BenW390Fan
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RMT says guards can work on the 777's https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/merseyr...xt=RMT Press Office:,for the long term future.
The Guards agreement was done and dusted a few months back. Now the drivers have to agree to the proposed methods of working and negotiate any pay increases that come with the added responsibility.
TheSel
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Possibly this - on Tuesday morning?
Realtime Trains | 5Q78 0849 Crewe South Yard to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) | 11/10/2022
Real-time train running information for 5Q78 0849 departure from Crewe South Yard to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) on 11/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Attached, in happier times, leaving Rice Lane (my picture)
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Nice photo. It's probably one of the most photographed 507/508 in 2022 as it was on the BLS tour back in March with 508141 in March. By chance I saw it late August paired with 508141 again on the Southport line. Two days earlier I rode on it to West Kirby.Possibly this - on Tuesday morning?
Realtime Trains | 5Q78 0849 Crewe South Yard to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) | 11/10/2022
Real-time train running information for 5Q78 0849 departure from Crewe South Yard to Newport Docks (Simsgroup) on 11/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Attached, in happier times, leaving Rice Lane (my picture)
508140 did indeed take its leave of the Merseyrail network in last night's steady rain. A few bits were robbed such as light fittings to keep the others going. This one was slightly sombre as 508140 was one of my favourite 508s and it ended its days riding well unlike 508143 which was appalling.
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