Looks like there's another unit drag tonight.
2356 Warrington Bank Quay to Sandhills Diesel locomotive, trailing load 715 tonnes
2356 Warrington Bank Quay to Sandhills Diesel locomotive, trailing load 715 tonnes
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Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates
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ExRes
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You may well be right, but 6J11 is a Colas service shown on Rail Record as 'Colas Track Machines'
There is a track machine (DR73909) going to Speke Jn later too, so maybe something to do with that..
I wasn't right... I did get to test my new lenses at night, so...
TheSel
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777016 out today. (pic below - my own - at Waterloo this afternoon, working 5S05 - 1352 Sandhills - Southport)
Lovely image! Would you be one of the gentlemen I bumped into at Chester, asking after the 230s?
TheSel
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Not guilty, but many thanks for the comment. Not been to Chester for several months.
Sam 76
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Great picture. Assuming 004 has finished its mileage runs also then ? Really picking up pace now great to see
They're really rather smart looking units
MDB1images
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Have to say the way you've caught the units angles with that photo it makes them look smart.
Great photograph.
MR-507508
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Is there any sign when training may start on the 777 units for staff?
They seem to be making good progress with the fault-free running and getting the units ticked off and accepted-I presume each unit is being accepted by Merseytravel once the fault-free running is completed?
They seem to be making good progress with the fault-free running and getting the units ticked off and accepted-I presume each unit is being accepted by Merseytravel once the fault-free running is completed?
jamesst
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Nope, still no discussions over training. Besides they're struggling to cover the normal service at the moment anyway
ExRes
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I wasn't right... I did get to test my new lenses at night, so...
No getting overly excited but ..... there are some schedules currently showing for tomorrow
1706 0Z20 Tyseley Steam Trust to Crewe Down Refuge Siding, 2055 6Z20 to Kirkdale CS then Tuesday 0518 5Q20 to Crewe CS
All are showing as SLC Ops operated so presumably it's 20007 & 20205, DCR 56091 doesn't seem to have moved from Crewe DR Sdg since the recent wagon mishap so the situation with it and the barrier wagons is a mystery to me
**** Updated Tuesday 21st ****
Reported on another thread, thanks @FrodshamJnct , that 777006 & 014 were the units moved from Kirkdale to Crewe this morning on 0518 5Q20, the service was operated by SLC Ops using 20007/142/189/205 TnT with three of the RailAdventure barriers
There is currently another schedule in place for a 2218 5Q20 Crewe Down Refuge Sdg to Kirkdale CS tonight, so presumably unit(s) returning home
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Rhysdabeast
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777002 is the unit being moved back to Kirkdale
Updated list below as of late Tuesday, 21st December.
No 777006 and 014 went to Crewe CS Tuesday morning and 777002 returned to Kirkdale.
Current locations:
Kirkdale = 001, 002, 003, 004, 010, 016 and 018.
Crewe C.S. = 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 012 and 014.
None at WOJn MSC Sidings.
My thanks to td47, Clagmaster and Timbom for info / confirmation.
No 777006 and 014 went to Crewe CS Tuesday morning and 777002 returned to Kirkdale.
Current locations:
Kirkdale = 001, 002, 003, 004, 010, 016 and 018.
Crewe C.S. = 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 012 and 014.
None at WOJn MSC Sidings.
My thanks to td47, Clagmaster and Timbom for info / confirmation.
Many thanks 8A Rail
Not the best quality photos of fast moving things in the dark, but here's 777002 being dragged between the quartet of class 20s.
I believe it was 20205 & 20189 leading the way, with 20007 & 20142 following up the rear. Apologies for being late to the party!
I believe it was 20205 & 20189 leading the way, with 20007 & 20142 following up the rear. Apologies for being late to the party!
D821
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Great photos! Do they really need four 20s to move one 777, though? They do look very clean and shiny.
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Sam 76
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I guess it's so it can reverse at Sandhills to get into Kirkdale
2 reversals in quick succession. First at Bootle Oriel Road then another at SandhillsI guess it's so it can reverse at Sandhills to get into Kirkdale
Nicholas Lewis
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Of course not but good fun for the 20 drivers out on the main line with 60 year old diesels that are still working not new trains that aren't
chiltern trev
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Plus probably also brake force vehicles.
Oh was that where it went? 777018 reached Southport this morning.
swt_passenger
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Class 20s are a bit like Ant and Dec. Not allowed to be seen on their own in public. Can’t run on their own because of poor visibility past the “bonnet”. So that makes 2, and then 4 are needed if top and tailed for reversals, as already mentioned.
childwallblues
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Whether you need 2 or 4 these 60 year old reliable locos are a great sight and are a reminder of the days when we had 4 x 20s on the Gladstone Dock to Fiddlers Ferry coal trains. With plenty of 777 moves to come enjoy whilst it lasts.
Why cant they split a pair to top and tail a train with cabs outward?
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Beats me…
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How much power do they need - and is there any communication from the front pair to the rear ones? Because if the power of 2 class 20s is needed to move the train, then you need two running at once. But if there's no way of operating the rear locomotive(s) in multiple with the front one(s) then you can't use the power from the back.
ExRes
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My thoughts as well, operating as one loco it would have needed to haul three barrier wagons, a 777 unit and the other 20 between Crewe and Kirkdale, would a single 20 be considered reliable and powerful enough for that? if not then a pair either end was the only way to go, there is of course the outside possibility that Michael Owen just wanted to give all four a run out
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