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Strategy for next 20 years published.

Can be summarised as theyve managed to reduce annual subsidy from two and a half to a million a year over the last 5 years though they are now at the plateau of possible savings and they have had to skimp on capital investment during that period.

Commuter services are heavily loss making requiring £4.60 subsidy per passenger each way, or £9.20 per passenger per day (revenue 210k operating cost £840k), charters are also an unprofitable operation. River cruises however are a success story and highly profitable though relies on there being two boats available, its doubtful if they could support the running costs of a dedicated ship though its by their revenues alone that the continuance of a two boat operation can be justified (three times the annual passengers as the commuter services) The boats are 50 years old and need replacing, the landings are also old and becoming ever more costly to maintain.

Their proposed strategy is thus purchase a new boat in 5 years and 15 years time. Immediately retire one of the existing boats when the first new one enters service to be broken up and used for parts for its sister. When the second enters service a decision will have to be made whether to retain a third boat for cruises/charters or to retire it too.

One of the Wirral landings (woodside) to close and be decommissioned as there arent enough commuters generated by the region to justify keeping both and they are expensive to maintain. They will also consider having them berthed off river overnight rather than at the landing as this reduces maintenence costs though will lead to reduced operating hours.

As the Manchester cruises are very profitable they are considering adding another call in Warrington to the service.

http://moderngov.merseytravel.uk.ne.... 1 for Mersey Ferries Long Term Strategy.pdf
 
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Perhaps time for a radical rethink?

Would a Thames Clippers type of vessel/operation not be more efficient?

Perhaps with one of the present boats retained as a "heritage" operation for MSC cruises etc.
 

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Perhaps time for a radical rethink?

Would a Thames Clippers type of vessel/operation not be more efficient?

Yes, but that is not the bulk of the market. The market is mainly about tourists, who like old style boats.

Thames Clippers do well because there are significant tourist destinations along their route, and the Tube is horribly overcrowded. Liverpool has neither of those issues - the routes are adequately served by Merseyrail and there aren't such significant tourist draws.

Arguably you could abolish it without hurting anybody's transport needs, though politically it won't happen - it's too associated with Liverpool.
 

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Yes, but that is not the bulk of the market. The market is mainly about tourists, who like old style boats.

Thames Clippers do well because there are significant tourist destinations along their route, and the Tube is horribly overcrowded. Liverpool has neither of those issues - the routes are adequately served by Merseyrail and there aren't such significant tourist draws.

Arguably you could abolish it without hurting anybody's transport needs, though politically it won't happen - it's too associated with Liverpool.

Many harbour ferry operations - most famously perhaps Sydney's - uses both smaller catamarans and larger more traditional mono hulls for the more densely trafficked runs - however you're right, the Liverpool operation is nothing like the scale of such operations and the commuter element is marginal and not really capable of development for the reasons you state
 

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....and the 1965 song that was recorded by Gerry and the Pacemakers.

I wonder if Chris de Burgh was ever brought up for inciting fare evasion
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Many harbour ferry operations - most famously perhaps Sydney's - uses both smaller catamarans and larger more traditional mono hulls for the more densely trafficked runs - however you're right, the Liverpool operation is nothing like the scale of such operations and the commuter element is marginal and not really capable of development for the reasons you state

Sydney's public transport on routes the ferry takes is pretty ropey at best, even on the shore-hoppers from Circular Quay to Watsons Bay, Darling Harbour and inland, I don't think that applies to Liverpool (although I've been to Sydney more time than Liverpool)
 
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