Media, the Conservatives and mind control

[mikeg]

Those of you who know me will know that I am a staunch Labour supporter. Those of you with an IQ and political awareness greater than that of a whelk will know that the Tory government and associated aristocratic and zionist controlled media are more than a little unfair to the working age proletariat and have attempted to sway peoples opinions. Well they never got me... until now.

I keep getting thoughts that tell me to betray the working class of this country. These are not my thoughts. Rather, they are signals being sent by the Israeli intelligence authority 'Mossad' with full blessing of this government. For those who refuse to believe the nonsense and hatred being perpetuated by the Daily Mail etc. it would appear things are about to take a more sinister turn. I was reading about technologies that can directly interface computers with the brain, and was interested to learn much of this research is being done by large companies in Israel (occupied Palestine).

My hypothesis is that we are about the be subject to direct mind control - that is any intellectual in disagreement with crony capitalism will begin to think traitorous thouhgts.

I suspect that I am one of a few people to have realised this But the thoughts are probably being 'broadcast' rather than 'narrowcast' so you too may have been affected without realising. To this end I ask, have you had any thoughts that you must betray your causes or that seek to divide you as a member of society?

I don't know why they're doing this, other than as an insurance policy that in case people stop believing the media and start thinking for themselves, they will have control of us.

 

[southern442]

I don't know why they're doing this, other than as an insurance policy that in case people stop believing the media and start thinking for themselves, they will have control of us.

It's really to encourage Capitalist thinking, which will keep Rupert Murdoch happy. This has been shown with the relentless bullying of Corbyn in the media. Whilst I think your idea is a trifle extreme, I have seen that what happens in the media does have an influence on people's mindset. Using the same example, at school (yes I am only young) several of my friends think that Jeremy Corbyn is a Communist and that the Labour party has swung about as far left as you can go. This means that the media has now convinced several people who will be eligible to vote when 2020 comes around that Labour will ruin the country. Say what you want about the left wing, much of the media has swung to the right and is now having more than its fair share of influence on people.

 

[90019]

My hypothesis is that we are about the be subject to direct mind control - that is any intellectual in disagreement with crony capitalism will begin to think traitorous thouhgts.

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Seriously though; thank you, I really needed a good laugh tonight, and that post has done the trick.

 

[ainsworth74]

I... I... I don't even know where to start...

I mean is this actually a serious post?

 

[mikeg]

Yes, it is serious. I am saddened but not surprised at the incredulity shown. It appears things have gone too far down this road already and that you are completely brainwashed.

90019 reminds me of my previous detention as a political prisoner, not in prison but in a 'hospital'. I am fearful this may happen again. I would rather face a trial as a common criminal than to have my views discredited and my dignity taken away in such a manner. Of course, I am neither ill nor a criminal, I just realise the truth and make no bones about speaking it. If this should sound too outlandish, don't forget that it was in Ceasescu's Romania, a country that betrayed the cause of real existing socialism for brainwashing and personality cult and incidentally the only eastern bloc country to maintain constant good relations with Israel and fund counter-revolutionary efforts in Africa that this too took place. If you disagreed, you were put in hospital so nobody would believe you and mental health conditions made up, nasty slurs printed about you in the papers, etc.
Barring the last, this is what happened to me last time I made my views so public and now I am fearful.

So I supsect that what is happening is that they have learnt from Ceausescu's tactics and that government agents are on here ready to post slurs against me. I say to them do your worst, one day the people will realise and hopefully you will one day receive the same Christmas gift as that Romanian vampire! In the meantime at least give me the opportunity and means to travel abroad and seek political asylum if you cannot leave me alone.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

In response to the comment in the first posting, I will commence my reply to reassure mikeg that I most certainly " have both a high IQ and somewhat far greater political awareness than that of a whelk", to use his phrase, and I see that he has been delving deeply into the "Socialist stock-phrase" lexicon by his use of phrases such as "Working age proletariat" and "Crony capitalism"

I see the usual clap-trap about Zionists appearing in this thread and wonder if it is not the creator of this thread who has been subjected to the brainwashing that he only sees in those who have the temerity to disagree with his rather strange views.

I only wish Gerald Kaufman, a long-serving MP and a member of the Labour Party, was available to repudiate the claims made so far by mikeg
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My hypothesis is that we are about the be subject to direct mind control - that is any intellectual in disagreement with crony capitalism will begin to think traitorous thouhgts.

I usually pride myself on my knowledge of the English Language but that word that I have emboldened above is indeed new to me. I suppose that "thouhgts" may be a word only known to those unfortunates subjected to those effects given out by the "direct mind control" referred to above...

For a diagnosis and advice, all I can offer to mikeg is the well-known saying, suitably amended, to say "just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they are not out to get you"...:roll:

 

[DaleCooper]

An insight into the science underlying thought control and the technology being used would be helpful. Is it electromagnetic radiation that transmits the signal, if so what is the frequency range and type of modulation, or is it some other phenomenom?

Without such background detail I will remain unconvinced.

I usually pride myself on my knowledge of the English Language but that word that I have emboldened above is indeed new to me. I suppose that "thouhgts may be a word only known to those unfortunates subjected to those effects given out by the "direct mind control" referred to above...

Perhaps this is the explanation for all the spelling and grammatical errors on the forum.
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My advice is that there are plenty of things wrong with this world, try concentrating on the real ones and you might do some good.

 

[NSEFAN]

The simplest form of brainwashing is repetition. Saying something over and over again can get even the sharpest mind to believe it. I shall invoke Godwin's law here to state that this is one of the reasons why the Nazis came to power so quickly in Germany, by using the available media to create a scapegoat, and getting the majority to elect them based on the idea of destroying "the evil forces that threaten our nation".

All the government cares about is winning the next election, no zionism required. To do this, the "winning" party just needs to cosy up with the owners of the papers, who'll see to it that the party gets a more favourable mention in the Daily Wibble, and Wibble News 24/7. I don't think you can ascribe this behaviour to just Tories, as every political party is up to it. The more popular they are, the more likely they are to sell their soul to Murdoch.

The way to prevent this from affecting you is to just realise that the press aren't about truth, they're about getting you to think an idea. Every publication, regardless of who owns it, just wants you to agree with what's printed. Both left and right wing publications are guilty of this. Whilst being cynical about these things is healthy, it's also important to avoid the other extreme of delusion and paranoia, that "They" are out to get "Us", as this also prevents you from critically assessing the ideas being propagated.

As for mind control technology, how do you think this is implemented? I am cynical about the government's intentions, but this is at a more basic level (i.e. corruption for individual gain) than an all-out effort to create a zionist eutopia. I honestly don't think that the government is organised enough to secretly invent, deploy and operate such an extensive mind control system without either losing the plans on a pendrive on a train, or wikileaks finding out about it.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Sniffing glue has never been a good idea.

 

[gtr driver]

Mike, I don't think "they" have to use anything other than good old fashioned propaganda. They scare the mass of people into believing that they have something to lose by supporting a collectivist agenda, even though collectivism always benefits every species more than rampant individualism. The media are happy to comply because they are usually owned by people who have something to lose by abandoning the neoliberal madness, though nothing like as much they believe they will. It's not surprising that we should all occasionally succumb, as there is a constant drip drip of approval for a rightist status quo being peddled - unions demand and are bad, benefit claimants always scroungers, people in council houses always lesser species, no alternative to privatised utilities, unions bankrolling labour bad but big business bankrolling Conservatives fine, can't have a left wing leader because the unions will pull the strings but it's fine for a bunch of old Etonians and Oxbridge types to do so etc etc. But zionists operating a mind control transmitter? Not this week.

 

[backontrack]

It's really to encourage Capitalist thinking, which will keep Rupert Murdoch happy. This has been shown with the relentless bullying of Corbyn in the media. Whilst I think your idea is a trifle extreme, I have seen that what happens in the media does have an influence on people's mindset. Using the same example, at school (yes I am only young) several of my friends think that Jeremy Corbyn is a Communist and that the Labour party has swung about as far left as you can go. This means that the media has now convinced several people who will be eligible to vote when 2020 comes around that Labour will ruin the country. Say what you want about the left wing, much of the media has swung to the right and is now having more than its fair share of influence on people.

There. That's the only answer we ever needed. The media wants a more capitalist, pro-austerity government for its own good, which is why it trashed Corbyn and Miliband. It's not fair by any stretch of the imagination.

Is that the sound of a thread locking?

 

[GatwickDepress]

I feel like I need to be on a lot more drugs to fully comprehend this thread.

 

[backontrack]

Well I haven't had any drugs, and don't intend to! Mind you, the presence of alcohol may have manifested itself on this thread in certain areas...

...anyway, I need to go talk to the 'modersating' team.

 

[RichmondCommu]

There. That's the only answer we ever needed. The media wants a more capitalist, pro-austerity government for its own good, which is why it trashed Corbyn and Miliband. It's not fair by any stretch of the imagination.

So does the electorate and a fair few members of the Labour Party. I'm a member of the Labour Party and I think Jeremy Corbyn is leading us to electoral oblivion.

 

[backontrack]

Well, sacking Hillary Benn and Maria Eagle would be disastrous for Corbyn. But the media's treatment of Miliband was terrible.

 

[RichmondCommu]

Well, sacking Hillary Benn and Maria Eagle would be disastrous for Corbyn. But the media's treatment of Miliband was terrible.

Why? The man was an embarrassment and therefore an easy target. The Party should have learnt from this that we should no longer elect embarrassing leaders that prove to be easy targets for the highest selling newspapers. Sadly we haven't learnt anything.

 

[Geezertronic]

This may be a railway forum but this is the General Discussion part so any old crap can be discussed here, of which this is most certainly one

Continuing what others have said about mind control and repetition, that's a good Derren Brown trick of the mind. Maybe the OP has been programmed to make this thread to see what responses he would get from the railway community

Or he could have a weak mind and is controlled by a Jedi mind trick?

 

[gtr driver]

It's really to encourage Capitalist thinking, which will keep Rupert Murdoch happy. This has been shown with the relentless bullying of Corbyn in the media. Whilst I think your idea is a trifle extreme, I have seen that what happens in the media does have an influence on people's mindset. Using the same example, at school (yes I am only young) several of my friends think that Jeremy Corbyn is a Communist and that the Labour party has swung about as far left as you can go. This means that the media has now convinced several people who will be eligible to vote when 2020 comes around that Labour will ruin the country. Say what you want about the left wing, much of the media has swung to the right and is now having more than its fair share of influence on people.

When I was at school the same treatment was being meted out to Neil Kinnock and my Sun "reading" peers thought that of him too. In the end the Labour Party reformed itself ultimately, into Tory Lite. Where does it go now?

 

[me123]

Hi Mike

I know it's been a while since you've last posted in this thread, and I hope that you're still reading our replies. I would agree with you that the right wing media in this country have an agenda against the working class, however I'm a bit less sure about your statements about mind control and thought broadcasting. I'm not sure as to what the motive would be of the Israeli government to brainwash UK citizens, and I'm not aware of any technology that allows thought insertion.

I can see from your posts that your thoughts are giving you a lot of concern, and I understand why you're feeling that way. I would urge you to speak to some of your friends or family about your thoughts on this, I'm sure they'll be able to lend you an ear and offer you some support. Given that you're quite clearly concerned about this, it might even be worth speaking to your GP to see if they can offer you some support.

 

[backontrack]

Hi Mike

I know it's been a while since you've last posted in this thread, and I hope that you're still reading our replies. I would agree with you that the right wing media in this country have an agenda against the working class, however I'm a bit less sure about your statements about mind control and thought broadcasting. I'm not sure as to what the motive would be of the Israeli government to brainwash UK citizens, and I'm not aware of any technology that allows thought insertion.

I can see from your posts that your thoughts are giving you a lot of concern, and I understand why you're feeling that way. I would urge you to speak to some of your friends or family about your thoughts on this, I'm sure they'll be able to lend you an ear and offer you some support. Given that you're quite clearly concerned about this, it might even be worth speaking to your GP to see if they can offer you some support.

Agreed. I hope that the OP can read this - it's great to actually have some real advice instead of the usual joke answers. I couldn't have said it better.

 

[Phil.]

Those of you who know me will know that I am a staunch Labour supporter. Those of you with an IQ and political awareness greater than that of a whelk will know that the Tory government and associated aristocratic and zionist controlled media are more than a little unfair to the working age proletariat and have attempted to sway peoples opinions. Well they never got me... until now.

I keep getting thoughts that tell me to betray the working class of this country. These are not my thoughts. Rather, they are signals being sent by the Israeli intelligence authority 'Mossad' with full blessing of this government. For those who refuse to believe the nonsense and hatred being perpetuated by the Daily Mail etc. it would appear things are about to take a more sinister turn. I was reading about technologies that can directly interface computers with the brain, and was interested to learn much of this research is being done by large companies in Israel (occupied Palestine).

My hypothesis is that we are about the be subject to direct mind control - that is any intellectual in disagreement with crony capitalism will begin to think traitorous thouhgts.

I suspect that I am one of a few people to have realised this But the thoughts are probably being 'broadcast' rather than 'narrowcast' so you too may have been affected without realising. To this end I ask, have you had any thoughts that you must betray your causes or that seek to divide you as a member of society?

I don't know why they're doing this, other than as an insurance policy that in case people stop believing the media and start thinking for themselves, they will have control of us.

I have seldom read such drivel. ".....Äristocratic and Zionist controlled media..". This is the stuff that comes straight from the Socialist Worker's Party handbook of political phrases. Your anti-Israel (the only democracy in the so-called middle east) reveals you as the victim of your own beliefs. Support the Labour Party if you will but I would suggest you leave your political posturing and conspiracy thoughts behind, they have no place on a railway fórum.

 

[backontrack]

What the heck is a fórum?

Oh, and this is the General Discussion area. You can say what you like.

You're clearly doing it. You say that politics is not welcome here, yet you make posts about the SWP?

 

[ComUtoR]

I'm Conservative, and so is my wife.

 

[Johnuk123]

This is the General Discussion area. You can say what you like.

I think you'll find that isn't quite true.

 

[Geezertronic]

Oh, and this is the General Discussion area. You can say what you like.

Within the guidelines of the forum rules of course

 

[TheNewNo2]

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[Haydn1971]

Ok, I saw this last night and expected a thread deletion so didn't post....

Here goes, in principal, I can see that the media is controlled by the wealthy and that "mind control" is done via the "propaganda" in these media outlets. I'm also a person that has social leaning views and a relatively high IQ (143 IIRC). However, I can form my own opinions based upon what propaganda I read vs fact based research via freely available data sources and don't buy into the mind control concepts, just return to the simple conclusion that our bias society is actually just driven by a single known factor.... Human greed

 

[Dennis]

ZOG ate my brain.

 

[ExRes]

Not sure that I've ever read such a ridiculous thread on this or any other forum, I would suggest, on my one and only visit to this thread, that the OP takes advantage of his local NHS services, either that or write urgently to Mulder and Scully

 

[ilkestonian]

I keep getting thoughts that tell me to betray the working class of this country. These are not my thoughts. Rather, they are signals being sent by the Israeli intelligence authority 'Mossad' with full blessing of this government. For those who refuse to believe the nonsense and hatred being perpetuated by the Daily Mail etc. it would appear things are about to take a more sinister turn. I was reading about technologies that can directly interface computers with the brain, and was interested to learn much of this research is being done by large companies in Israel (occupied Palestine).

My hypothesis is that we are about the be subject to direct mind control - that is any intellectual in disagreement with crony capitalism will begin to think traitorous thouhgts.

I suspect that I am one of a few people to have realised this But the thoughts are probably being 'broadcast' rather than 'narrowcast' so you too may have been affected without realising. To this end I ask, have you had any thoughts that you must betray your causes or that seek to divide you as a member of society?

I don't know why they're doing this, other than as an insurance policy that in case people stop believing the media and start thinking for themselves, they will have control of us.

Just a couple of questions, if you don't mind.

Firstly, in what way are you finding yourself betraying the working class. Are you perhaps finding yourself buying the Daily Mail without realising it, or is it just something small and insignificant at present.

And secondly, how are Mossad conveying these thoughts from your computer to your brain. I've looked in my PC and can't see anything capable of doing this. I also wonder how they will cope with brainwashing those without computers.