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Xenophon PCDGS

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In a discussion, it was put to me that a station (not obviously on the same station site that was closed) would be a useful tourist aid, noting the bay area and the historical island site of St Michael's Mount.

I remember the days when the Fyffes Monro horticultural group had a thriving fresh vegetable trade in that area.
 
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I would say that a station in Plympton/East Plymouth would be more worthwhile as there is a lot more people living there.
 

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It might be for some. I usually end up walking along the coast from Penzance for the views.
 

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'Marazion Road' would be more accurate - it was a long walk to the centre, and the causeway for St. Michael's Mount wasn't much nearer. I can see a case for extending some St. Ives trains to and from Penzance, however, for the A30 to St. Erth often has nose to tail congestion, heavily delaying bus services.
 

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Yet Carbis Bay, the penultimate station to St Ives, still remains open and is also a similar distance as once was the case with Marazion to the terminal railway station.

The problem with Marazion is the original station site isn’t particularly convenient both for St Michael’s Mount, nor Marazion itself.

Find a way of resolving that issue, by sorting some form of transport to bridge the gap, and a St Ives to Penzance service becomes quite attractive, though not sure how operationally feasible.
 

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The problem with Marazion is the original station site isn’t particularly convenient both for St Michael’s Mount, nor Marazion itself.
If you read my original posting, you will note that I took care to state "not obviously on the same station site that was closed"
Find a way of resolving that issue, by sorting some form of transport to bridge the gap, and a St Ives to Penzance service becomes quite attractive, though not sure how operationally feasible.
On a much larger scale of size, from what I have been told, the Exmouth to Paignton service seems to be an aid to the tourism of the area concerned, travelling both banks of the River Exe.
 

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If you read my original posting, you will note that I took care to state "not obviously on the same station site that was closed"

I’m not sure where else would be any better. The railway turns north immediately on the London side of the original site, so realistically any alternative site isn’t going to be much closer - and to some extent may be worse as at least the old site allows people to have a scenic walk along the beach. At best the only obvious change I can see is putting a new station on the opposite side of the road bridge, but that doesn’t really change much in the grand scheme of things.


On a much larger scale of size, from what I have been told, the Exmouth to Paignton service seems to be an aid to the tourism of the area concerned, travelling both banks of the River Exe.

The thing with Exmouth to Paignton is that service seems to be able to hold its own even without any tourism traffic. It caters for a lot of local journeys, and links numerous well-populated areas for work, education and leisure.

There isn’t actually that much in Penzance, and St Ives will always be very seasonal.

I guess the other problem is that to run St Ives to Penzance with two trains is very tight, as it means covering St Erth to Penzance and back in under half an hour, which a Marazion stop is only going to make even harder to reliably achieve. The moment it can’t be done with two trains then the whole thing would become unviable I suspect, as during the summer to deliver a half-hourly St Ives service using a 4-car train, a Penzance extension makes the stock requirement goes from 2x 150 to 6x 150. Worse still if a longer train is required.

I think this all fits in the “would be nice” category, but unfortunately there seem to be practical reasons why it’s unlikely to happen.
 

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The problem with Marazion is the original station site isn’t particularly convenient both for St Michael’s Mount, nor Marazion itself.

Find a way of resolving that issue, by sorting some form of transport to bridge the gap, and a St Ives to Penzance service becomes quite attractive, though not sure how operationally feasible.

Not very!
It would need a reversal at St Erth from the St Ives platform, back down the branch and then forward onto the main line, into the UP platorm.
There doesn't appear to be a cross-over between UP and DOWN main lines in the station area, which further complicates matters
 

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Not very!
It would need a reversal at St Erth from the St Ives platform, back down the branch and then forward onto the main line, into the UP platorm.
There doesn't appear to be a cross-over between UP and DOWN main lines in the station area, which further complicates matters

There is - the trailing crossover at the country end of the station provides the functionality, albeit that all services would have to use the up main platform which isn’t ideal. This is how the occasional Penzance / St Ives services run today.
 

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There is - the trailing crossover at the country end of the station provides the functionality, albeit that all services would have to use the up main platform which isn’t ideal. This is how the occasional Penzance / St Ives services run today.
Extending St Ives branch trains additionally to Penzance, with intermediate stops or not, would also be a challenge to path along the single line approach to the terminus, 2km in extent beside Long Rock depot. In addition, it would expose the branch service to the vagaries of long-distance operations on the shared sections. Paths are best used for the stopping service towards Camborne (apart from Wednesdays!). That could call at a new station.
 
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