manchester picc northbound bay platforms?

[Nym]

Well everyone is always moaning about through capacity at manchester piccadily, and I'm always moaning about trains terminating at oxford road when I want to go to piccadilly. Why don't they build some northbound bay platforms for the VXC/TPE Glasgow Edingburgh Services, and the Holyhead/Bangor/Liverpool ones that loop round to the north? what would it need 2 platforms? and I dowbt it would be anything longer than 6 units... Since I've never seen one train not delayed on the through lines, why would this be a bad idea? they could even ro-open the old station next door and make some more through platforms for intercity services? have a look at the very badly drawn diagram and see what you think?

 

[Nym]

or build it over the car park to the south, could fit 4 platforms there on a high level, or 2 very spacious one. pt. 15 - 16/18

 

[Craig]

Both of those suggestions would require extensive building work and wouldn't really help. Anything terminating would need to cross lines when arriving or departing (depending what side the bays were built on) so would still limit the amount of trains that could run through 13/14. Also the existing platforms are fairly small (width wise) and aren't ideal for an interchange.

There's only a couple of trains per hour booked to terminate at Oxford Road, any others only do so because of late running. A better solution would be to reduce the amount of trains running through platforms 13 and 14 at Piccadilly, while increasing the length of the remaining ones.

There have been talks of reopening Mayfield before, but I doubt it'll ever come to anything.

 

[Nym]

Both of those suggestions would require extensive building work and wouldn't really help. Anything terminating would need to cross lines when arriving or departing (depending what side the bays were built on) so would still limit the amount of trains that could run through 13/14. Also the existing platforms are fairly small (width wise) and aren't ideal for an interchange.

There's only a couple of trains per hour booked to terminate at Oxford Road, any others only do so because of late running. A better solution would be to reduce the amount of trains running through platforms 13 and 14 at Piccadilly, while increasing the length of the remaining ones.

There have been talks of reopening Mayfield before, but I doubt it'll ever come to anything.

a freight bypass of 13/14 would be good up to trafford park, seen a lot of intermodal freight going through, could also utilise the bay platforms there by creating a loop, pictures will possibly follow...

 

[Max]

There have been talks of reopening Mayfield before, but I doubt it'll ever come to anything.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/m/manchester_mayfield/index.shtml

Looking at some pictures of the state of the site, I'm sure Mayfield could be redeveloped and reopened with not too much difficulty. I believe that Mayfield could be designated the specific station for all North/South TPE services (except Liverpool trains). Manchester Airport reversers could probably go in and out of Mayfield without that much conflict with other trains.

 

[1D53]

Nice idea in theory. Shame they are building some nice hi rise flats all over your new bay platforms.

 

[Craig]

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/m/manchester_mayfield/index.shtml

Looking at some pictures of the state of the site, I'm sure Mayfield could be redeveloped and reopened with not too much difficulty.

Certainly looks that way. I've just found the document I was talking about earlier, although it's now 7 years old:
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/nms-gmpte.pdf

I believe that Mayfield could be designated the specific station for all North/South TPE services (except Liverpool trains). Manchester Airport reversers could probably go in and out of Mayfield without that much conflict with other trains.

But that would still require trains from the East to cross all the lines at Ardwick, which isn't ideal. Perhaps another solution would be to electrify Trafford Park - Hunts Cross and run the Liverpool stopper through from the south (Hazel Grove or somewhere) and transfer the Crewe/Alderley Edge/Macclesfield trains into Mayfield.

 

[Nym]

Nice idea in theory. Shame they are building some nice hi rise flats all over your new bay platforms.

I don't like the look of what the're building anyway, drag em down and build my station, lol

or they could convert some of the undercroft with a crosover underneath and rise the lines on either side of the deansgate line so they don't have to cross it